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ttbn,

Where do I start. You again accuse me of being an anti-Semite
with stereotypical Jewish friends. (That doesn't make
sense). And, by the way - you're talking about people
I grew up with who are family to me.

You tell me that
you can see through me? That's not possible when your blinkers
narrow your vision and your mindset is so badly affected.

What came as a surprise is - you consistently rant and try to
demean people on this forum that you see to be -
Socialists, Leftists, Marxists, Progressives,
anyone whose views don't agree with yours. And then there's much
much more - but I'll leave it for now.

Then we have an "Ooops" moment when
you refer a book on universities
to Shadow Minister by Frank Furedi. This was totally
mind-blowing.

Furedi - was involved in Left-wing
politics in Britain in 1970s. In particular as a member of the
International Socialists. He was a founder and leader of the
Revolutionary Communist Party. His wife Ann Furedi is the
Chief Executive of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service.
UK's independent abortion provider.

Dear NNS,

Thank You for your advice and your concern.
But there's no need for it. I have learned so much
from David F., over the years that I've been on
the forum. He's taught me to question everything .
And that we can learn something from everybody.
Including what not to do.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 12:06:02 PM
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Shadow Minister,

If you look up Avi Shavit on Linkedin you will see
that not only is he the Strategic Advisor in Cyber
Security for the Israeli Innovation Authority but he's
also the Head of the Cyber and Homeland Security
Sector and Director of 50 million dollar programs since
November 2004. He works for the Israeli government and has
been since 2004 in the Chief Scientist's Office.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 3:27:25 PM
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Foxy,

If you look on the Linkedin he is a consultant. I worked as a consultant for a few years and in doing so headed up portions of multi $m projects for clients, often working solely for them for a year or more. I was also not directly employed by them.

Bus drivers are directly employed by the government, so using SR's logic they should be boycotted, Expats consult for the Israeli government, but they are not boycotted. AS is an Israeli Jew, thus he is boycotted.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 4:15:12 PM
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Shadow Minister,

My husband was self-employed and worked as a consultant
for many architectural firms. (he's an architect).

So I am well aware that a consultant advises people who are
in charge but they don't make the final decisions.
They also don't become Heads of Cyber and Homeland
Security Sections nor are given positions as Directors in
Chief Scientist's offices. They are also not in charge of
those 50 million dollar programs. They consult and are paid
a fee not a salary. And they don't usually hold their
positions for more than 14 years. As Mr Avi Shavit has done.

Besides forget the bus driver analogy - Mr Shavit's was not
nor is a bus driver. But he is an employee of the Israeli
government. But on the other hand you can believe whatever
you want.

Just a thought - if Mr Shavit was a "consultant" for the
Teliban or ISIS would you defend him as well?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 4:48:09 PM
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Irrespective of Furedi's politics, which I am well aware of, having read him for years, he wrote what he wrote in the book, and I agree with him. There is no "oops" involved, you silly woman.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 5:06:01 PM
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ttbn, don't worry about it.
People who have to keep referring to books or seek proof, read a lot.
They absorb and sometimes morph into a particular character or view they find appealing.
Unfortunately they, like actors, are devoid of what used to be their own persona and the open mindedness that went with it.
So now having absorbed these views find it difficult to accept that there are many other views and opinions.
A lot of what is written is based on opinions or fiction.
Even history is for the most part embellished for some personal or beneficial agenda to the subject matter in question.
Just think back to Mr Howard when he attempted to change some historical details about some past event.
If not for the outcry by certain people, we would have had a false or incorrect entry or record of our history.
I wish I could remember the incident and what it was about.
Imagine in the future someone quotes from that book, but I lived through it and clearly remember the true story.
Can you imagine the vitriol, the abuse just because I dared to tell it like it was?
Well I do.
But no, the book says differently, and because it's a book, it must be true.
So don't take any of their comments as being typical of the 'real' population, they are clearly their own opinions.
Fortunately they form a very, very small number, thereby rendering them, at best, a voice amongst themselves, and more to the point, irrelevant.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 6:18:09 PM
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