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University Bigots

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Dear Steele,

I've got to admit that for me this topic has now run
its course. It's time to move on. I was taught to
question everything. Thank You for your support.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 8:15:56 PM
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Dear Foxy,

Perfectly understandable.

And my apologies, I should not have addressed that last post to you as this isn't your fight.

I will admit to a measure of belligerence about Shadow Minister labeling us as anti-Semitic. There was a time I would just wear things like that but not now. None of should have to. Now when he rolls it out I go out on my way to show him up for the racist he is. Since he seems pretty set on continuing with this discredited and lowly form of attack this may go on for a while.

With ALTRAV it is more about making sure he never feels his perspective on women is either normal or funny. It is neither.

Please know I do admire your efforts at engagement and I think most people on OLO recognise it comes from a good place. More strength to your arm.

The likes of Abbott and Trump and lately those like Leyonhjelm have emboldened many with notably less capacity to think of others. Fighting fire with fire is not the most edifying pursuit but it does wonders for easing the chagrin at the prolific natural of their supporters.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 8:58:47 PM
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Anti-Semitic?
I transcended and nullified that word several weeks ago.
It no longer holds any power over me.
I beat it on merit.

I merely pointed out the facts, that it can mean two things, hatred towards Israel or Jews for no reason; or criticism of Israel or Jews for good reason.

Then I pointed out that use of the world 'Anti-Semitic' is 'hate speech', based on the fact only non-Jews can be labelled 'Anti-Semite' (Jews considered Anti-Semitic are labelled something else - 'Self-hating Jews'), which means use of the word Anti-Semitic is reserved only to denigrate non-Jews and is hate-speech; like saying use of the 'n' word is reserved only for use by white people.

And what do you know?
Not a peep out of them.
I'd silenced the silencers.

Mind you Israel had created a public relations nightmare for itself anyway.

Don't worry about the word 'Anti-Semitic', or others attempts to force you to self-censor, just focus on 18d that's the law of the land.
(Not that it worked in Bolt's case.)

I never really wanted to abuse or denigrate anyone in the first place, but to simply speak my mind, and my beliefs and call out stupid wherever I see it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 10:09:18 PM
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Foxy, I am humbled by your asking about me, well.
Italian parents arriving Perth 49'.
I was born 50', boarding at convent from age 4'.
More catholic boarding school till 1st yr high.
Public schools till 3rd yr high.
Uni Mech Eng for 4yrs. then full time in the family Eng business.
Started my own Auto Design/Eng business in 80'.
Involved with many cultures and countries all my life.
I have been in joint ventures with the Malaysian Govt befriended people like Dr Mahathir, the PM of Malaysia at the time.
Created vehicles for Dr M and the Sultan of Brunei, Hindustan Motors of India.
I have created and supplied vehicles Nationally and Internationally.
I have lived abroad.
My life has been, 'I live to work'.
I have always loved what I do and I can proudly say 'I have never worked a day in my life'.
I have seen and experienced some of the worst and not much of the best of people.
I call myself a wog because as I have spoken of in previous posts, if your parents are both of the same nationality, it matters not where you are born you're of your parents blood.
Therefore in my case, as the international newspapers have labelled me, I am an 'Australian born, Italian Designer'.
Those with mixed parents, have a different formula to describe them.
So by any definition other than the political one, I am a WOG.
I grew up with this kind of language and it does not bother me, so it should not bother anyone else.
What people have to understand is that as a boy growing up in a country that saw us as the enemy, even as a child I felt sorry for those who lost friends and family in WWII.
I came to dis-like Australia and it's negativity and regressive policies, nothing to do with racism.
My angst surfaced as a young man with new ideas and even having won international recognition and awards in the automotive design field, I found it impossible to introduce new designs and products in Australia.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 10:28:25 PM
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continued...........

Foxy, I hope this is what you mean.
Of course there is more and in much more detail, but I don't think many will find it worth reading but I'm happy to oblige if it means I am better understood.
'Thank you.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 10:32:15 PM
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Dear Steele,

I value your insights, your comments, and your
contributions to this forum. To me you are a very
special man. One who makes me smile on a regular
basis. I'm so glad that you're here and such a
valued part of our OLO forum.

Dear ALTRAV,

Thank You for replying to my request and for telling
me so much about yourself. It helps to know something
about a person in trying to understand them and where
they're coming from. My own background is also European.
Again, Thanks for replying.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 July 2018 10:23:45 AM
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