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What is your view for one to worship humans?

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Religion is always portrayed as peaceful yet no other organisation divides humans more than religion.
Religion is like alcohol or drugs, if you refrain fom it all is well.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 28 June 2018 8:51:31 PM
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Dear runner,

The God of Israel is not the God that Christians worship. The statement of faith of the Jews is, "Hear, O, Israel, the Lord, our God, the Lord is one."

That's it. No Trinity. No other divine figure. Christians do not worship the God of Israel.

That's fine with me. Christians can worship whoever they want, but they do not worship the God of Israel.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 28 June 2018 8:52:17 PM
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Off topic a little, but not too much, there is a Christian community near me that holds a huge medieval festival each year. On their billboard they say "come and see over 500,000 years of human history".

I thought, hang on, don't they believe in creation? If so, how can this be? More curious than anything.

BTW, I think Trump is making headway and the tall poppies can't accept that.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 28 June 2018 9:34:18 PM
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runner: Ask any Muslim if they worship the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ or the God of Israel and your false dogma is exposed.

No, you are wrong there. Islam Is one of the three Abrahamic Religions. Jews, Christians & Moslems. They all have the one God in common.

David F: Christians can worship whoever they want, but they do not worship the God of Israel.

Yes they do. God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Ghost. A Trinity of one God. That bit is taken from the Old Hindu Philosophy as in the Veda's.

rechub: BTW, I think Trump is making headway and the tall poppies can't accept that.

I tend to agree. We will see the Liberal Rhetoric ramp up in the coming months. Already there have been calls by some Liberal sections for armed insurrection. (from a group that doesn't like guns ?) Strange.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:04:51 PM
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Dear runner,

The virgin birth prophesy in Isaiah 7:14 is a mistranslation. It came about because the Vulgate translation of Hebrew into Greek translated the Hebrew, almah which means young woman, into parthenos which means virgin. This was possibly done to make Jesus like the many pagan gods which were born of virgins.

http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1561/pg1561.txt

“The old Teutonic goddess Hertha (the Earth) was a Virgin, but was impregnated by the heavenly Spirit (the Sky); and her image with a child in her arms was to be seen in the sacred groves of Germany. (1) The Scandinavian Frigga, in much the same way, being caught in the embraces of Odin, the All-father, conceived and bore a son, the blessed Balder, healer and saviour of mankind. Quetzalcoatl, the (crucified) saviour of the Aztecs, was the son of Chimalman, the Virgin Queen of Heaven. (2) Even the Chinese had a mother-goddess and virgin with child in her arms (3); and the ancient Etruscans the same.”

Carpenter gives many other examples.

There is no prophesy of a virgin birth in the original Hebrew
http://biblehub.com/isaiah/7-14.htm

King James Bible

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Jewish Publication Society (JPS)

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign: behold, the young woman shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Almah is a Hebrew word for a maiden or woman of childbearing age who may be unmarried or married. It does not, in and of itself, indicate whether she is a virgin, for which a different Hebrew word betulah is used.

There are 26 versions in English in biblehub. The Jewish Publication Society (JPS) and 2 Christian versions translate the Hebrew properly as young woman. The others mistranslate it as virgin.

Judaism is a monotheistic religion worshipping one God, not a Trinity, and the virgin birth has no place in Judaism. Christians do not worship the God of Israel.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:19:56 PM
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Jayb You are mistaken again. Islam completely rejects the God of Israel and the God of the bible. Islam denies the death of Jesus Christ on a cross believing it was Judas who was crucified. The examples of Jesus Christ and Mohammed could not be further apart. In short you speak regurgitated academia dogma. The Koran has almost nothing in common with the holy Scriptures. The God of Israel has nothing in common with the god of Islam.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:33:07 PM
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