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Do we rid our selves of the Senate or reform it?

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Yuyutsu we agree, others ignore the line you draw and I support, terrorist V Muslim more Muslims by a factor in the thousands, die for every WASP at the hands of terrorists, Muslim terrorists,not every Muslim is a terrorist.fact the western world, our country, benefits from information Muslims give that stops another mass murder, I am biased, I think every faith divides humanity,and that we must address that one day, but blind hate is not the answer.
My statement re terrorist in the senate only was an effort to HIGHLIGHT some got there with only 77 primary votes, that disturbs me,
Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 June 2018 9:00:15 AM
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Belly,

"... some got there with only 77 primary votes, that disturbs me,"

Why be disturbed, the voting system is Proportional Representation, so 'Primary' means nothing.

What do you think of First Past the Post?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 8 June 2018 9:41:45 AM
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First past the post is the only reasonable intelligent system for elections.

First it isolates our votes. No more my vote ending up electing someone I definitely do not want.

Secondly it stops this foolishness where a few votes can elect someone the majority definitely don't want with the trickle down of primary votes.

Thirdly it will stop the unrepresentative swill problem. With out enough votes, no one gets in.

Then if we stopped this equal members from each state, & required a minimum of 1% of the total national vote, it would reduce the swill, & save us money

Of course none of this is as good as just abolishing the senate completely, as it is way past it's use by date.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 8 June 2018 12:44:37 PM
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//You'd better look up how Britain & Germany & France & Holland & Belgium & Sweden ended up having Muslims in their Senate.//

Half of those countries don't have even have Senates. Might take you a while.

//Be prepared to use up many Gigabytes looking it all up because that's how much evidence is already out there//

Oh yes? Can I see some of this evidence of Muslims in Sweden's Senate, even though the Riksdag is unicameral? I daresay it will be most amusing.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 8 June 2018 1:05:51 PM
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Hasbeen yes one vote one value will do me, however if we insist on having a senate at the least reform it,I see no need or benefit in the smaller party's, single issue, or single person, getting a overpaid position,4 senators per state, no cash paid to party's or people not elected, no preference, votes did after first preference, fixed!
But me no buts! the thought disenfranchising small groups is not a bit more wrong than empowering them to rule over the majority
Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 June 2018 3:11:13 PM
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Half of those countries don't have even have Senates. Might take you a while.
Toni Lavis,
So, that doesn't alter the fact that they have Muslims infiltrated in every on of these Governments be it Senate or Parliament or whater nit-picking you want to do for purely academic worming about. You have just displayed a part of what's wrong, you picked on a petty technical issue & completely side-stepped the overall issue & that is not amusing.

Have a look at this link, it shouldn't take you long to realise that opportunistic nit-picking is a
mutt's game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQZKCH2hwa0
Posted by individual, Friday, 8 June 2018 3:36:43 PM
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