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The Politicisation And Emasculation of Our Defence Force

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AT: Because no-one wants to be singled out and be seen as Politically Incorrect,

PC wasn't a Subject when I went to School. It wasn't in the Curriculum back then. I've never been signed off on it so I can't be held responsible. :-P

CM: There are differences between Men and Women.

Yep, last time I looked but it's getting harder to tell now-a-days.

p1405: The way to prevent extremism in society is to ensure that we live in a fair and just society to begin with.

You'll just have to explain that to the Lefty/PC/Greenies. They need it more than anyone.

It's nice to see a calm analytical voice among the rabble. ;-)

I still haven't see a comment from the RVH's about the Gun Truck Iconography.
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 3 June 2018 8:42:51 AM
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Jayb if we go too far on this we probably need to create a new thread on PC. I'm not going to judge/ argue with the "Lefty/PC/Greenies" - And I'm not saying that my comments are in relation to any "rabble" on this thread - its a waste of time because they already have the answers. People that have all the answers capture the "air time" wasting every ones time - they repeat the same things that everyone knows until everyone gives up. Best to focus on the positive - its easy to ignore people on the web sometimes I even do it intentionally. There are always people around that are willing to learn something outside their experience - often they are silent. It can be a painful process to learn new things. I agree its sometimes important to stand up for beliefs. Triage not the ones screaming, but the ones that aren't breathing - hopefully we can get more people breathing. We all have our prejudices. Diametric mentality is surely requisite for wisdom. As I've said in other threads - you don't have to agree with the opinions but once in a while its good to expand our comfort zone, then we become stronger off your opposition (see Voltaire). I'm sure everyone including myself can improve their debating style - its important to exercise judgement in debates. I enjoyed the comments by "Paul1405" on Michael J. Sandel. I don't blame anyone if they are afraid of ideas - political correctness is a powerful alarmist force - you need to have a strong position before making a stand - its sad we've given it power and allowed the focus get so far from common sense. In other times criminal commitment required "intent" - I agree that sometimes ignorance is used as an excuse - but if you analyze the argument in detail it becomes fairly ridiculous. I agree with "Foxy" that its important to read widely in order to have a broad understanding.
When the few hijack the community tyranny occurs. (see US Declaration of Independence, Plato's Republic, Aristotle's Politics)
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 3 June 2018 12:28:40 PM
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Dear Paul1405,

Thank You for your sound reasoning.

There's been such a pushback against political correctness
and I think that is due to the discomfort people feel
talking about other people's issues that they don't fully
understand. And as we know - it's easy to believe in
freedom of speech with those with whom we agree. We like to
be able to be free to say what we want - but if anyone
says anything back - well that's a different story.
I guess that's life. (smile).
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 June 2018 2:10:11 PM
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CM, I do not subscribe to PC. I ask of your thoughts because this topic goes to the heart of PC.
After some analysis I have discovered that PC is a new form of lying. Many mediums attempt to suggest that PC is a more respectful language. This is not the case.
If people cannot have free and frank discussions, the outcome will be anything but the correct one.
PC simply means it's a new form of censorship.
For something as critical as our national security, PC in the military is akin to sabotage.

P.S. A very simple way to describe PC is;
The word 'correct' is very clear in it's meaning and unambiguous.
On the other hand, the words 'politically correct' means something other than correct.
It's immediate meaning means it is 'incorrect'.
And as 'incorrect' carries a negative connotation, so it is that the message being delivered is a lie.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 3 June 2018 9:55:46 PM
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ALTRAV - I've been collecting my thoughts on your question - I sympathize - I am very concerned about PC too - obviously many people feel like you do - It's a broader subject than I initially considered. But I don't think I will be able to answer today. Sorry. Have a check in a few hours I might make a reply then.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 4 June 2018 12:08:41 AM
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Foxy: There's been such a pushback against political correctness
and I think that is due to the discomfort people feel talking about other people's issues that they don't fully understand.

I don't think it has anything to do with the Discomfort at all. I think it's to do with the sheer stupidity of the whole PC issue. It's a nice PC way of saying it though foxy.

AT: Many mediums attempt to suggest that PC is a more respectful language.

The Mediums were & are wrong & it was & is just another Leftist agenda in trying to destroy our Country.

NEWS, JUST IN:

I guess the whole "Offensive Military Iconography" thing is now Mute Point.

After consulting with the Troops of 1 R.A.R. (Past & Present) at the 50th. Anniversary of the Battle of Coral & the Presentation of the Citation in Townsville earlier this month, the General has had another think & withdrawn his objection to the Iconography. Da daaa!

A win for Common Sense has shone through.

At this point I'd like to get a little childish & say, "Stick that in ya pipe & smoke it."
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 4 June 2018 3:51:35 PM
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