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The Politicisation And Emasculation of Our Defence Force

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I guess the whole "Offensive Military Iconography" thing is now Mute Point.

After consulting with the Troops of 1 R.A.R. (Past & Present) at the 50th. Anniversary of the Battle of Coral & the Presentation of the Citation in Townsville earlier this month, the General has had another think & withdrawn his Directive on Iconography.

No comment from anyone. Why is that?
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 4 June 2018 9:38:45 PM
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Jayb, I'm with you, but I remind myself to be humble in victory.
But your sentiments are not wrong as this is just one example as to how people are swayed by PC and either un-informed or over informed people. Ultimately I live in hope that the people will stop believing the BS that is being pushed by certain people.
And so it is that we have to work twice as hard using common sense and reason.
PC does not bode well where the truth is concerned.
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 4 June 2018 11:03:45 PM
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ALTRAV - In answer to your question...

In the rise of the “Identity Wars” with many fronts, propaganda, and several powerful weapons - Political Correctness is weapon and propaganda.

Groups not representative of society are potentially a source of revolution and counter- revolution – a Hegelian scenario.

I find talking about treason amusing as "Identity Fighters" gave their loyalty to other principles than Australia long ago – treason has no meaning.

Use “treason” as a weapon if useful - If they use a dagger - cut with gun or axe, as long you draw blood. War is measured in blood. It just stands that different people don’t necessarily care about us and won’t follow the “rules” of our society not matter what the “laws” are. Laws like the military are blunt instruments – people need to grow up in society in order to accept the rules – and if you come from another culture your loyalty is divided. The rules of society often operate by “peer pressure not by law”. Peer pressure doesn’t work when the people aren’t part of the society. We will need allies to fight the battle against identity politics – so the war must consider the public relations aspect.
It’s sad that large parts of the female part of western society compose a large component of the “identity alliance” and seemingly betrayed their birth community. We may live with them – we don’t have to trust them. How do you fight enemies embedded in your own ranks? You can’t trust anyone – this is the environment of the intelligence war. An intelligence war appears more about subtlety than aggression – determine high value targets and destroy them. War is wasteful – but “Identities” want a fight – if we retreat they’ll chase us – its sad that families are divided and weak and poor due to split loyalties. Sun Tzu says if you can divide / tire your enemy while you are resting you will be strong while your enemy is weak – who is dividing families and local communities? They are the real enemy.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 2:21:00 AM
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If a member of your family is loyal and capable why wouldn’t you promote them according to their abilities for the success of the family? If families are stupid enough not to promote their strength they’ll be pruned from the gene pool. Don’t you want to create a strong local community around your family so that you can protect each other? Now the battle lines are drawn it’s everyone for themselves. Diversity policy is problematic – you can’t have a male group these days – but like Marie Curie in Poland we can form groups in secret. Males have accepted changes in the makeup of our society over the last 100 years. Even men didn’t have the vote in 1854. Men have suffered in society too - they tend to live shorter lives than women. Feminism has become more of a revolution than a reform. Who will carry our culture if Men can’t trust Women. We all can only act on what we see. If we can’t agree we must fight. Let the war begin … the sooner we’re all dead the sooner the peace.

In the military – Should identity politics be allowed to change the general military, the front line troops, the special forces? The front line and special forces need to develop pride in their aggression because as Clausewitz says the aggressive force needs to be directed at the enemy to win. But transport and other branches of the military also need this “killer /devil may care” instinct in order to get equipment across enemy ground to the desperate troops that need them.

It’s great to see that the Chief of the Army is able to see reason. Perhaps there is some small hope in the future.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 2:26:59 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

We were just playing with words - Jayb and I.
Just having some fun. But I'm happy for you
and your turd.

Personally, my taste is different to yours in
what I collect.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 9:47:52 AM
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//it is possible to polish a turd and some of them polish up very well.//

Lion turds in particular:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI

I think Mythbusters must have been running out of ideas by that point :)
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:18:41 AM
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