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Well done or Done well?

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I condemn Moutia's support of terrorism in the strongest possible terms.
I despise her one-finger salute.
I approve the judge's decision.

However, I salute Moutia's refusal to stand for a judge.

Society has every right to demand that you do no harm.

Nobody, however, ever has a right to demand your active cooperation.
So long as you sit quietly and do no harm, your freedom of non-action is sacred.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:17:23 PM
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Yuyutsu, I want to agree with you, but unfortunately so long as we have certain proto-cols, we have to comply. I no sooner wish to hold a judge or magistrate to any level higher than myself, but whether we like it or not that is the law of the land and that is the way it is done. If you think you are a free man in this country, huh, think again. As for this cult, I hate to say it but we must not knowingly allow even one person in if there is a chance they may bring harm to anyone here. The immigration policy here is a disgrace. Trying to follow this rubbish PC crap is killing people and the do-gooders refuse to see it. I don't get it. They have told the world they are going to kill the white 'infidels'. Now because we don't know who 'they' are, it would seem prudent to halt any 'muslim' immigration or entry into Australia. What fools the govt are. We have been warned again and again by these people and still we not only allow them in but we are prepared to change our way of life, (religion) to suite them. How absolutely insane. I would not let someone into my house if they had made it abundantly clear he was going to harm or even kill me and or my family. Let's see the do-gooders argue their way around this.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:47:59 PM
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Dear ALTRAV,

Aren't you a little snowflake. Did you even read the story?

The judge said; “no evidence she was acting on a genuine religious belief”. In other words she was just trying it on like many others before her. Nothing special.

Also from the article;

“Last December the Australian National Imams Council said Islamic defendants have no faith-based reason not to stand before a judge or uncover their faces while giving testimony. “

Go after the guilty party by all means, she seems like a thoroughly dis-likable person, but there is absolutely no cause to be slagging off about every Muslim.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:52:04 PM
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SteeleRedux, why do you refuse to see what is so clearly in front of you? I do not want to 'slag off about every Muslim', but given that the Muslims themselves are against these murderers, we must be vigilant and unfortunately, it is they who have alienated themselves, not me. You must see that there is no other way. I have suggested previously, that the Muslim community know who these people are, but are too afraid to come forward. I get that. But to sit in silence and ignore the avalanche of deaths being brought upon westerners, is the same as if they had done the deed themselves or at least condoned it. I don't wish to stop anyone seeking a better life, and Muslims are no different, until they openly and continually say they want to kill us. Come on Steeley you have to have some thread of reason in at least understanding that what they (the terrorists, and therefore the Muslims) are doing is wrong and we cannot afford to be generous at the risk of getting attacked at any moment. It's not the lifestyle I expect from living in Australia. So, unfortunately just as we don't allow certain people in from a country with an outbreak of some life threatening disease, so it should be in this case, (comparing them to a life threatening disease is not nice but I could not think of another metaphor which best or more closely described my point). I tell you what. If you can vouch for the Muslims coming here with your life as insurance, I might re-think my stance. 'Might' I said. Until then I do not want to hear or read, another word about removing the cross or any other thing which is offending them. What are we saying to all the other races that are here who have simply migrated and got on with their lives without so much as a peep. What are you going to say to them? Try not standing when asked by a judge in their country and see how you go.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 20 May 2018 3:24:18 PM
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ALTRAV,

Don't waste your time with the Left bigots; they are allied with Islam. The Left has a common cause with the Muslims: they both have contempt for Western society. They share regressive social and political attitudes that have no purpose other than to destroy the current system and rebuild it in accordance with their own dictatorial visions. Discuss anything with the likes of Steeleredux? You might as well try it with a Muslim. Perhaps he is one.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 20 May 2018 4:59:12 PM
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ttbn, thanks for the heads-up. Steeley, I'm sorry you can't see my point or at least see me half way. I am curious as to why you hold such views even in the face of a life threatening situation. I am not familiar with your position on such things, so I have to go with ttbn's offering. I am not opposed to people in general, just those that want to harm people (or worse), for no good reason. If I did something bad to Mohammad or his family, I can expect some form of retribution. What I don't understand is, none of us 'infidels' were alive 1,300 years ago, so we could not have harmed anyone. So why are there people who I have never met and am likely not to ever, wanting to kill me? Now if one more person tells me, 'because it is the will of Allah', then I will give them a reason to kill me. What I find extremely hard to accept is that the Quran, if it really did say this in it's original context, then why? Why is it so important to do something that was conceived and relevant 1,300 years ago? Surely there are passages even in the Quran, just like the bible and so on, that are not relevant today. Or is it that these 'followers' are so jaded that they feel compelled to do these awful things without reason, just blind faith. Steeley, I hope you can give me something to go with so I can better understand this current social and political apparent impasse.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 20 May 2018 6:46:32 PM
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