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Employment, Social Security and Poverty

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Some interesting reading in the ACCOS submission to the 2018 Minimum Wage case.

“Since the GFC, young people have been disproportionately affected by growth in unemployment and under-employment, and when they do secure the paid working hours they seek, it is more likely to be a low-paid casual job.”
“The minimum wage also impacts poverty indirectly through its relationship with the social security system. It is appropriate that a gap is maintained between social security payments and the minimum wage in order to ensure there is an adequate reward for paid work.”
“Family Tax Benefits supplement paid work, raising the disposable incomes of low-paid households. However, in recent years governments have reduced these payments”
“The real disposable incomes of low paid families have declined relative to those without children. Child poverty is increasing”
“The inadequate real growth in both minimum wages and working age social security payment levels (allowances and family payments) is contributing to the decline in relative living standards for people reliant on these income sources, when compared with both median and average wages growth over the last two decades.”

http://www.acoss.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ACOSS-minimum-wage-submission-2018.pdf
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 6 May 2018 8:51:56 AM
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Dear Paul,

Yes, it is harsh, but the only way to eliminate child poverty is to stop having the children. Certainly it is irresponsible to keep encouraging couples to have them - the world is utterly overcrowded by humans and more of these are certainly not what it needs. As the world cannot afford any more children, nobody should be made to believe that they can personally afford it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 6 May 2018 1:31:07 PM
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“... the world is utterly overcrowded by (the wrong kind of) humans…”, non-Westerners and the poor who take but do not contribute. As the birth rates for Westerners plummet, there will be even less money, food and goods for the big breeders.

ACCOS is a professional whining and begging group, not to be taken seriously. They have never been known to say a good word about anyone or anything.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 6 May 2018 3:30:41 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

«non-Westerners and the poor who take but do not contribute.»

Kindly look at the back of your shirt and tell me where it was made.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 6 May 2018 5:07:30 PM
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His shirt Yuyutsu, is highly unlikely to have been made by anyone collecting Australian welfare.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 6 May 2018 7:21:30 PM
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Yuyutsu,
>Yes, it is harsh, but the only way to eliminate child poverty is to stop having the children.
Just because you're anti-state doesn't mean you should pretend it's impossible for the state to deploy the resources to eliminate child poverty.

>Certainly it is irresponsible to keep encouraging couples to have them
No it isn't. We've already fallen below replacement rate.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 7 May 2018 2:10:03 AM
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