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The politically motivated scheme of the Conservative government, “Work For The Dole” has failed disastrously .
Two years ago today, 18-year-old jobseeker Josh Park-Fing was killed while on a Work For The Dole placement at a showground in Toowoomba, in southern Queensland. Josh died after falling from the tray of a flat-backed trailer being pulled by a tractor which hit a bump.
The Department of Jobs and Small Business claims ‘Jobactve’ providers will ensure participants in the program receive, "workplace inductions and training". nothing of the sort was ever given to young Josh.  The Australian Unemployed Workers' Union said a third of calls to the union's helpline were about Work For The Dole worksite safety issues. Jeremy Paxton from the union said, "We hear that a lot of these workers aren't getting proper training, and that these sites aren't complying with standard workplace health and safety procedures.". In 2016, a Government-funded report suggested 64 per cent of Work For The Dole worksites failed to meet "average" health and safety standards.
Its time this bogus scheme was abandoned, a scheme that is serving no one except a few small businesses that are exploiting government provided cheap labour, and replaced it with a decent jobs training program for our unemployed youth.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 April 2018 6:09:48 AM
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Two years ago. At that time, there was no conservative government: Turnbull had already saddled us with a second socialist Labor government. And the unfortunate excuse for a tirade against anything the Greens don't hold with would be with us today if it were not for the work for the dole scheme, would he? If he hadn't been working for the dole, he would be alive today? Still collecting the dole or even earning a living? Who knows? What we do know is that working for the dole had nothing to do with his untimely death!

Is the policy even enforced? How many of the 700,000 unemployed in Australia are actually working for their handouts?

Who finances the unemployed “workers” union? (a good many of them have never actually worked). Is the union staffed by volunteers, or is taxpayers’ money, via the dole, propping it up? But, surely those nice, selfless socialists would not be demanding part of people's dole money to provide (what?) services?

You have a nerve accusing any government of political motivation, Paul, when your post is crawling with political motivation. Nothing wrong with that, of course; don't give a thought to any accusations of hypocrisy
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 April 2018 9:55:51 AM
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ttbn, This should be right up the alley of the Conservatives. Is this not something the Conservatives in government champion, a forced labour scheme that demonstrates to their supporters and the wider community that they are tough on dole bludgers, even if did cost a poor child his life. Do not the extreme see his death as a bit of collateral damage in the pseudo political war they want waged against the undeserving, and unemployed youth of Australia.

What I want to see for our unemployed youth is properly managed training schemes, programs that deliver real outcomes for young Australians. Not the useless exploitative nonsense we have now, that sees kids used and abused as cheap labor for small business, which in this case resulted in a child's death.

You can ask all the irrelevant questions you like, but the fact is, this rubbish is all the Conservatives in government can come up with when dealing with Australia's unemployed youth. Beat them over the head with a big stick, great.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 April 2018 11:49:56 AM
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P1405

How's the greens surrogate campaign to limit the presence of the police in Byron Bay progressing?

Let us not interfere in the passive lifestyle of Greens supporters who wander aimlessly and unemployed around the same streets, with a surfboard under each arm.

God forbid we ask them to contribute to society, through work for the dole schemes!
Let's all support them with a friendly little tag of “back packer”!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:19:54 PM
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Paul,

So, are you suggesting that any participant in a Work for the Dole Scheme should receive workplace inductions and training ? Of course, shouldn't that be automatic ?

Are you suggesting that, if that was done properly, there would be nothing particularly wrong, socially, financially or philosophically, with the Work for the Dole Scheme ? I would support you on that, as usual.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:24:44 PM
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I'll bet our Paul is looking for a job as executive director of work for the doll training schemes.

Don't need one Paul. All doll receivers should have to report to their local council for 2 days every week, to do what the paid work force never get round to doing. Just making them get out of bed in time to be at work at 8.00AM would be pretty useful training for their chances of future work.

Now listen for the union scream
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:42:18 PM
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