I don't believe the unemployed should be 'shamed' to work for their Dole per se. Rather it should be a case of identifying their vocational interests (within reason) and formerly train them in exchange for their Dole payment.

I'll admit there are a small hard core group of legitimate bludgers in our community (not as many as you might think) who'll do everything possible to avoid work including gaol, but these are very much in a small percentage. Moreover I've always found if you remove a persons dignity, you'll have trouble with him in the future.

When it comes to 'most' people receiving unemployment benefits, many would prefer to receive a wage, not handouts from the government. Accordingly they should not be divested of their dignity simply for being unemployed.

The remedy for the intractable, ('dole bludger') unemployed - arbitrarily move them to a government work camp and have them repair furniture for the aged, or grow vegetables for the poor, or similar work given their age and physical ability. Their remuneration, or their salary; full board and lodging, not a 'skerrick' of cash - just full room 'n board. It would help them review their negative attitude toward their expectation of government handouts.

Paul,

There is no conservative government in Australia; has not been one since Mal and the wets stabbed Abbott in the back. You appear not to have caught up with that. No way could the Leftist Turnbull government be called tough on anything.

I'll ask again. How many of those 700,000 are working for the role? How many are subject to your 'forced labour’ nightmare in the Dickensian tradition? I also note that you have downgraded this 18 year old adult to “poor child” status.

I really like the idea of your “properly managed training schemes, programs that deliver real outcomes for young Australians”. But, can you recall a time when the political class managed anything properly? And, what jobs would the training be directed at? What is left of Australian industry doesn't need workers: the ones they have will be around until retirement or death, a long way off mostly, and of little use to the growing number of unemployed. All the jobs Australians couldn't do, or wouldn't do, have been taken by immigrants - immigrants that we would not have needed had the political class stopped regarding the jobs as 'menial’ jobs and paid a little more for Australians to do them. There is no excuse for a developed country to indulge in mass immigration.

It's a pity that you find my questions “irrelevant”. You won't be able to prove your point without the answers; and I am not interested enough to waste time fossicking though the bureaucracy of work for the dole.

Paul, outraged are you? How is your society to revenge yourself on behalf of people killed by Labour green schemes going?
I think a two days a week for the local council will be the real go. Green councils will mobilise the young people into flying pickets and proper councils can get some litter collected. Before anyone sneers, wouldn't it be great to not see plastic rubbish alongside the road?

Dear Paul,

I feel so sorry for the family of that young lad who
was killed and find it rather disturbing that it's
taking so long to get to the bottom of this tragedy.
It should not have happened.

However, I don't agree that with the "Work For The Dole,"
Scheme young people don't learn skills. They do. For a
start they learn to turn up for work on time, (instead of
sitting at home doing nothing - or just mucking around with
their friends). They learn a work routine - how to inter-act
with other people, how to take orders, how to listen, and so
on. Also, they learn how a business functions, and what's
expected of them in order to keep a job. The list goes on.

Their self-esteem goes up as a result, and in quite a few
cases, if they do a good job, they may even be offered a
full-time placement. It has happened. If they want training
or to learn certain skills - there's always TAFE. Perhaps
TAFE could be an incentive - as part of a 'Study for the Dole,"
program? Giving young people a choice.

Paul,

How about the Greens immigration system that killed 1200 people?

I'm sure that bludgers will phone the union for prevention of work to complain about "safety" issues over the years, and that at the first accident the bludgers union will try and shut the system down having completely failed to stop the pink batts debacle which killed 3 kids.

Green with hypocrisy.

Many people have forgotten about the pink batt deaths. That was the fault of the loopy left, not conservatives. Paul&Co might have mentioned when it happened. I don't recall.