ttbn, farmers DO send ill animals abroad. As for NZ getting better prices than us, sure it's because they are a better quality meat. Haven't you noticed the difference? I have. You can babble on as much as you like your attitude and those of your mates, as I have already said, is childlike. I don't care if you or anyone else thinks 'I'm not a very nice person'. Again if you and your girly mates want to go down to any holding yards in the middle of winter you would have something to say about that even. You people are unrealistic and would fail in the real world, in real life situations. Stop carrying on about nothing. I don't care if the conditions are appalling to you and your lot, you don't count, you are irrelevant in the greater scheme of things. And I say this as a fact and not with malice. The conditions are what they are. They started out nice and clean and by the time they got to their destination it was dirty. DUH! You lot are far too impressionable. As I said, like children. We don't know the veracity of these expose's. Were you there? Was anyone you know there? Possibly behind the camera. Exactly where and when were these pics taken. Are they historic footage to try and make a point? Too many questions mate. I'm sorry you and your lot are in NO position to debate this topic. I AM. Remember, I was involved in one of the original contracts as there have been many dating back many years.