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Police Violence, A Growing Concern,

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Again Paul 1405

I read that you oppose violence in its many forms. That is a truely liberal left position.
But in your opinions on this issue of an arrest by four police officers, of a violent offender in Byron Bay, you simply follow the siren call of the liberal Greens electorate that Byron Bay is.

Without repeating myself, I've outlined the politics behind this attack on authority, by the local establishment in posts above. It's a convenient pay back for a perceived attack on the towns liberal left anti establishment view, on how they perceive that life should be !

It's the nature of the town to encourage hippy life styles, by encouraging music festivals which continually fall short of the socially acceptable, both in outcomes of law and order, and overcrowding, and disregard to the convenience of those visitors and residents who wish and deserve peace, outraged by scant regard to a morality of acceptable community standards, by festival goers.
In short, the movers and groovers of this town, have created a monster which is now out of control.

There is a regular presence of the riot squad in Byron Bay, and opposing authority has become a sport of visiting yobbos, who frequent the beleaguered town in their thousands.
That is entirely why many of them arrive; to be entertained by this sad spectacle.

One of the tenets of liberal left is opposition to authority. It's an anarchy they wish for, but when it happens, call for help from the establishment it loves to oppose.
This alone makes the Greens look like the bunch of yobbos they are reputed
to be.
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 1 April 2018 7:34:45 PM
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DD, please provide evidence that the youth in question was a "violent offender". Without evidence it is simply worthless supposition on your part. Unless you, and you alone are privy to some as yet undisclosed information, how can you claim there was some form of "pay back" for the so called liberalism within the town of Byron Bay. That is nothing more than an assumption on your part. You may see yourself as an expert on all things Byron, but I suspect you are probably not. Just someone with an opinion based on a bit of local knowledge. I was in Byron Bay about 10 days ago, does that also make me an expert on the place?

I believe it was somewhat more mundane than what you paint it as. More like four burly coppers getting their jollies at the expense of a drunk 16 year. The coppers were not to know their actions were being filmed, and there would be later ramifications.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 1 April 2018 8:18:20 PM
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Foxy,

"... by people who are supposed to be
in the job of protecting - not attacking members of the public."

Have you found a reference to where it says that it is part of the job of the police to protect the public?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 1 April 2018 11:11:49 PM
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Paul 1405

Is your problem with everyday reality, related to a lantana patch 14.05klm from Nimbin?
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 2 April 2018 9:00:08 AM
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//Have you found a reference to where it says that it is part of the job of the police to protect the public?//

That would be in the Peelian principles laid down by Sir Robert Peel, the father of modern policing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 2 April 2018 9:06:57 AM
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Toni,

The Peelian Principles are irrelevant to the question as they do not say that it is part of the job of the police to protect the citizen.

In the US, where the Principles are also part of their police traditions, the Court has ruled that the police are not responsible for the protection of the public.

"Modern police reformers have described the Peelian Principles as being relevant in the present day, with American law-enforcement officer William Bratton calling them "my bible."[11]"
(from your citation).

This is not to say that the vast majority of police, here and in the US, would not risk their lives to save a fellow citizen but they are not obliged to do so.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 2 April 2018 9:57:58 AM
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