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Posted by Belly, Friday, 13 July 2007 7:05:27 AM
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There are two deadly Word's that haunt political culture in this country. This was something David Williamson noticed. Sorry to be the messenger but beware:
http://www.nfsa.afc.gov.au/screensound/screenso.nsf/AllDocs/06D7C6B20F9C4F84CA256B5F001B307D?OpenDocument Don's Party. What a dreadful feeling the morning after! Posted by saintfletcher, Friday, 13 July 2007 5:46:34 PM
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I am aware of Dons party, in fact I lived in the days that saw us in opposition for 23 years.
No last minute savior for John Howard no Tampa no 9/11 no last minute capture of Bin Larden. Right now our country is booming, not all Howard's work. The share of the dollar paid as income is as low as it was years ago. While some prosper and do own 2 or 3 homes some eat baked beans and struggle to pay the single mortgage. If interest rates rise again [and they will] far too many will be bankrupt. Australia is divided into the haves and the soon will not haves. Mr Rudd will be Prime Minister and a good one. But while I want no golden pre paid future for unions under our child Labor, I want our voice heard as much as the big business unions like those of the miners. My doubts do not include any about the ALP victory. Every time in my life I saw a Labor person rat on the party I said I would never do that. A national IR system could be fair and balanced if based on the NSW one. Arbitration is not radical, enterprise bargaining is a win win with true productivity increases, right of entry stops some true crimes against workers. Already workers are dieing as state work cover offices become slothful and uncaring. no Dons party just a new direction for Australia. I have no concerns that unions must be more responsive too but we must be able to breath. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 14 July 2007 5:41:54 AM
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Gday again Kev just thought you may wish to hear from another bloke who did it tough as a kid.
Mum had 16 child births 8 of us made it to teen age years, dad was a railway fettler. And he was a union delegate, not surprising he maned the booths each election. We sat around the radio and as each seat fell we cheered or sat quietly. You would not remember but you may know one year we lost after a hand full of far left preferences went to that bloke Killen or some thing like it. Nothing much has changed we trade unionist still man the booths, still work that final month full time to get us , thats me and you , our mob over the line. We understand you must govern for all Australians, that not all who work vote ALP that not all unionists do. We do no want an unfair advantage or any advantage Kev. Can you understand how your lash at Robbo sounded? How often in mid speech at how much we need you elected in so many lunch rooms a voice in the crowd becomes a shout? WHY? We will win, you will be a great prime minister but will you forget your promises? If you get a chance a day to spare come with me, we can only visit two shops, meal times you know, workchoices. Visit people on the very edge of real poverty because they have never been other than low income earners. Yet work full time Kev we only want a fair go bloke. Oh Kev that hard childhood, ever had dumplings in syrup on Sunday? because it was the only food in the house? God please I hope no one ever has to live like that again, it is no crime to be poor . Posted by Belly, Sunday, 15 July 2007 8:41:00 AM
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Belly,
Rudd was as redneck to blacks in Nambour as his mates. So don't think for a moment he knows working class values (at least not how i know em) How he ever got into a Labor party that espoused socialist views is beyond me. But upon further reflection, perhaps the ALP just did lip service to truly leftist ideals. Now don't get me started on unions and their blindness to the working conditions of Indigenous Australians or their weak as pss effort in stolen wages advocacy. Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 15 July 2007 10:35:56 PM
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Rainier :
Now don't get me started on unions and their blindness to the working conditions of Indigenous Australians or their weak as pss effort in stolen wages advocacy. See even we agree on some things ;- Posted by polpak, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 5:32:30 PM
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Gee you have picked up our hopes, thanks for that, reckon we could win this one without much effort.
May I talk about workers, no bloke not unionists all who work?
See right now some are buying the third home, hard work and effort good on them, but some have kids and wifes who suffer every day.
Workchoices, yes it does the job Johny wanted inflicts pain on those who can least afford it low income earners first.
Now unions ,are you aware most of us union members and those who are not members do not want the world?
Could you maybe look at the NSW system as a national one?
Could you give us back fair arbitration?
Mate can we have balanced union right of entry?
Kick the other end of those who play up, who drag the movement down with idiotic acts.
But John Howard could not understand a difference in unions exists hope you find time to say Gday to Robbo mate.
He is a good bloke ,hey Bill Shorten heard of him? future Prime Minister for sure.
Look just need to say while the conservative lies about unions owning you are not selling, a few of us voices in the crowd[ about half a million] is my guess hope we are being heard.
We only want a fair go bloke regards I will be as usual on a red neck booth on polling day and so very happy at my back yard victory bash, not alone I hope.
And I hope not alone after we win.