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Barnaby gone.

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So Barnaby has resigned.

Australia will be even more badly governed now, without his common sense right leaning approach, moderating the idiot Turnbull.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 23 February 2018 1:36:19 PM
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Dear Hassie,

The Barnaby Joyce saga has been dissected every which
way in the media. From the political strings and
taxpayer money that he's used and abused; to the
Ministerial codes of conduct that he's somehow not
broken and the hypocrisy of his supposed position
on family values. Yet we're told that we're not supposed
to be able to have a conversation on any of this because
it's his private life.

I guess the standards of what is
private life and what is relevant to Mr Joyce's capacity
as a leader (and Deputy PM of Australia) is determined
by what behaviour old (and not so old) white heterosexual
men consider meet and are relevant to their respective
standards. Everyone else is supposed to fall into line
behind that.

What many find utterly repellent is
that this man can still think it is his right to
dig in his heels, call this
a witch-hunt, play the victim card and not understand at all
both the hypocrisy and the duplicitousness of his behaviour.

Barnaby gone?

Most people certainly hope so!
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 23 February 2018 4:06:35 PM
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Yes ! The Betoota Advocate, as usual in the forefront of news scoops, has announced that Barnaby has pulled out - he has resigned as deputy PM and head of the Nationals:

https://outlook.live.com/mail/#/AQMkADAwATE2ZTEwLWY3YzctZDE2OC0wMAItMDAKAC4AAAPwLFVHw9aDSaZNKzChV%2FZBAQBB2sPMAwi5Q7TYLUddFtDWAAACPBMAAAA%3D/id/AQQkADAwATE2ZTEwLWY3YzctZDE2OC0wMAItMDAKABAAbWDWRudsI0CiGPJ%2FPiJd%2Bw%3D%3D

His withdrawal will be welcomed universally. Malcolm's thirtieth news poll rating will probably coincide with Barnaby's up-coming new arrival. Who needs bread and circuses ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 23 February 2018 4:40:48 PM
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Hassy, I can see why Bonking Barney would appeal to you. The blokes is completely useless, a political dill, he is getting what he deserves. What we need is a general election to clear the air, and replace the dysfunctional Coalition Government with the Labor mob, who are at least halfway competent.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 23 February 2018 5:42:02 PM
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It's amazing that he thought that he was going to get away with. The CWA ladies in Queensland were never going to put with that sort of nonsense.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 23 February 2018 6:25:44 PM
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Paul, the fact that he gets up your nose is almost enough recommendation, but that you disagree with what he stands for is even more important.

Obviously he is on the right track if the greenies disagree with him.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 23 February 2018 7:54:57 PM
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Getting out with his pension etc before he gets charged with accepting bribes, 6 months rent free in a few million dollar mansion gifted by a friend who he happens to have a conflict of interests with his business dealings.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 23 February 2018 9:13:59 PM
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Hassy, his only claim to fame as a politician is he band some pop stars pair of mongrel dogs.

What does Bonking Barney stand for, lecherous behaviour with the office women, that's what. She couldn't have been much of a "media adviser", she got pregoes to Barnyard and then seen him crash and burn.

I bet years back you were also duped by the Nationals in Queensland. You would have been telling people how great was Old Joe and his mob, as they plundered the state. No fool like an old fool.

Barnyards not off the hook yet, there is still the woman in WA to deal with. Another million dollar by-election in New England. lets have a general election and turf the Tories out, be over and done with.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 24 February 2018 5:30:33 AM
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Well Barnaby is gone and I am angry with him. Just when it began to appear that Turnbull might just squeese in again at the next election. The prospect of another Labor government distresses me, but that likelyhood looms large.

Personally I have no sympathy for him, he is just another bloke that could not keep his penis in his pants and it is all his own doing. As far as I know, his wife is a good woman and no doubt has done an immence amount to help his political career.

We are saddled with fools for politicians in all parties, but when one looks at the people ruining their lives with drugs, we do not deserve better.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 24 February 2018 9:30:44 AM
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Photos at recent events indicate that Mrs. Joyce has picked up a bit of squeeze for herself. She said that she didn't want Barnaby to resign or be sacked, but he has gone, and she could be disappointed by a much leaner divorce settlement. It is very difficult not to be cynical about politicians and their hangers-on.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 24 February 2018 10:50:45 AM
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We all know a few men like Mr Joyce. Whenever they enter a social setting with women present, any half-intelligent person can tell what type of man they are within the first minute. I have no sympathy for women who get involved with this type of man. As far as I am concerned, the validation she has provided for Mr Joyce and his toxic model of masculinity is far more powerful than any condemnation any of us could offer. Mrs Joyce was an enabler.
Posted by benk, Saturday, 24 February 2018 1:23:58 PM
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"The prospect of another Labor government distresses me,"

You poor little petal, a Bex, a cup of tea and a good lie down, and you will get over it.

Rather have Money Bags Malcolm and Bonking Barney with their three ring circus running Oz. Well, it takes all kinds.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 24 February 2018 10:17:54 PM
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I liked Barnaby Joyce back in the days when he was a maverick senator. But those days are long gone. Now he just toes the party line and fails to give serious issues the attention they deserve.

Good riddance!
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 24 February 2018 10:25:05 PM
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Now he just toes the party line and fails to give serious issues the attention they deserve.

Is the party line knock off your office girl, and give her some serious attention. but what ever you do just don't let anyone find out.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 24 February 2018 10:44:37 PM
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Don't forget him and Turnbull made up a very high salary job for her.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:13:51 PM
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Paul,
The current LNP, with its high immigration rate, is not my idea of good government, but far better than the wasteful, high immigration Labor/Greens of Gillard/ Rudd we had before. I have not forgotten the encouragement of thousands of illegal invaders they brought in, and they could not care less if a few drowned.

You cannot fix stupid,It takes more than a 'bex' to stop that.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 25 February 2018 2:57:02 AM
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50,000 Plus anyone like to bet most that were let in are still on some form of welfare.

Shorten wants to close Manus and Nauru you only have to read the reports from Manus re the criminal activities some of the so called refugees are getting up to know this will not end well for Australia.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 25 February 2018 10:47:19 PM
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Philip S, the PNG Court ruled Manus Island detention centre unconstitutional. But for a bloke like you, that would be seen as some upperty black fellas trying to tell whitey what to do, and we can't have that, now can we.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 26 February 2018 4:05:38 AM
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Poor old Turnball's, another MALcontent on the back bench. Sitting right next to the Mad Monk himself.
Money Bags has to be on borrowed time, his days are numbered.

An election in September.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 26 February 2018 7:36:21 PM
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So Paul1405 you would be happy to have the criminals from Manus living in your suburb?

The fact about what is legal and what is not is irrelevant with regard to Manus they were given other options that are legal but they refuse to move.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 26 February 2018 8:06:50 PM
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Yes Phil, if they replaced some of the home grown criminals that frequent my part of town now, they would be more than acceptable.

Your acquisition that "Shorten wants to close Manus" was wrong. Shorten had no say in the matter. It was a determination of the Supreme Court of PNG, and you know it. I suspect you would only poo-ho the decision of the PNG Supreme Court, because it was made by black people against white people, and being a bigoted racists you do not respect such decisions, so be it, but don't lie about it. I'm no fan of Shorten's but I think he would be an improvement on the dysfunctional clowns running government at the moment.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 3:35:37 AM
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Hi Paul,

Your heart-felt sympathy for illegal immigrants is understandable, since you are clearly not a 'bigoted racist'. Probably neither is Phillip :)

One question bugs me: if illegal immigrants were brought from Manus and Nauru, should they be counted as part of the refugee quota ? If so, should fewer genuine refugees, those who have filled out all the right forms and waited five, ten, fifteen years, in some desolate desert camp, be pushed back in the queue ? If not, are you suggesting hat the annual quota be expanded ?

And would you maintain that, if those illegal immigrants are allowed into Australia, this would have no effect whatsoever on the people-smuggling business from Indonesia ?

No rush, take your time :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 8:58:51 AM
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Hi Joe,

Like it or not Australia has a problem, and I called Philip S out after he made a false accusation against Shorten, "Shorten wants to close Manus" No the PNG Supreme Court ruled Manus must close, and I'm not a fan of Bill's.

A tough attitude towards others, refugees/indigenous etc, is something you often espouse on this forum. We are not in their position so its a bit hard to say if we were, if we would act differently.

As for your series of questions, I am not an expert on refugees/immigration those questions can only be answered by government after much deliberation, so any answers from me would be of little value. But I suspect the answers forthcoming will be more political than anything else.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 10:21:24 AM
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Hi Paul,

Your impotence is noted.

So you have no opinion about whether or not the annual quota for refugees should be lifted, to take into account the arrival of illegal immigrants ?

Or do you have the opinion that the annual quota should be more or less fixed, and refugees who have properly applied should be pushed back down the queue, to make way for illegal immigrants, even those arriving by boat, in the event that people-smuggling gets going again under the next Labor government ?

Isn't it amazing how conversation drifts from the original topic to something entirely different ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 10:33:29 AM
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I don't think Paul or any other regressive has ever got over the fact that Tony stopped the boats. From every abc reporter to every regressive they pompously sprouted that because of the 'push' factors the boats could not be stopped. Their predictions were as credible as the gw alarmist.

btw how are the dams in Brisbane and Sydney. Empty yet?
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 11:49:26 AM
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What mealy mouthed garbage Paul.

What we would do in the same situation has nothing to do with the boat people problem.
Firstly they are no more refugees than you are, they are simply economic migrants.
Secondly they are migrating because they & their fellow citizens have destroyed their countries, both economically & culturally. This is basically because they have 2 or more warring tribes in those countries

What we must do is protect our own from getting into that same situation, & destroying what we have built.

Apart from ratbag greens being a divisive influence, it is these boat people, & others from the areas they come from who will turn Australia into the same disaster area they have left. We are one of the most attractive countries to gate crash, due to our politically correct softly softly approach, & our over generous welfare & welcome policies & spend. Those now going to the US must be spitting chips, they won't get it so easy there, as they would have here.

It will be people like you, & your attitudes, that our great grand kids will curse in the future.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:23:39 PM
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Joe, one of the myths is the notion that an orderly queue of refugees exists, nothing of the sort actually exists. Can you direct me to this queue. The redneck rhetoric of queue jumpers, illegals, crimnals etc does nothing for what is a serious world problem, that of the plight of the millions of refugees across the planet.
Given sudden developments in our region, such as a natural disaster, war etc, the annual quota of immigrants can be rather flexible, governments make exceptions when the need arises. With the uncertainty that exists over those detained on Manus Island and in other parts of PNG, if the government cannot find a willing party, like the US, to take these people, what do you think the Australian Government should do?

Hassy, I have read your solution to the refugee problem before and like the true redneck you are, it sickens me.

BTW Joe, I did not start any discussion on refugees.

runner, if you were a true Christian as you claim to be, you should be down at the shoreline welcoming the boats with open arms. What happen with you, between the time they nailed Christ on the cross and today, something that has put you off Christianity altogether. Did you attend a Catholic school, and spend too much time in the broom cupboard with Father You-know-who?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 4:19:49 AM
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You may not have to worry about the Nauru refugees much longer. The dangerous mould contamination will probably kill them off for us soon enough.
Unfortunately that means there will be none left to serve as warnings to other potential refugees (who want to come by boat).
Maybe we could mount their heads on stakes along our coastline?
It will deliver exactly the same message but by a slightly different method only. The sentiment is identical.

As for Joyce, what did that drunken bozo actually achieve as a Minister - besides handing out some goodies for his mates and setting himself up financially with insider CSG trading information?
He said he was going to dispose of that landholding to avoid a "potential conflict of interest" but 5 years later, he still hasn't budged. Now the proposed inland rail runs right past it. Wow, what a lucky break!

He talked the talk but never managed to walk the walk.

I'm still waiting for the rest of his (many) indiscretions to come out, but that's probably why he left so quietly and easily.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:31:48 PM
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Paul,

If there are more applicants fo refugee status than the annual intake, then there is a queue. Do you really think that barely fourteen or fifteen thousand refugees around the world - out of 67 million - apply to come to Australia, which is about as far from danger as possible, except perhaps New Zealand ? And good luck being one of the six hundred that New Zealand generously takes in each year. i wonder how long the NZ queue is.

So please don't write rubbish, Paul. We're not all mugs even if your habitual acquaintances are.

IF there are more applicants annually than the annual quota, then there is queue: there is nothing redneck about recognising one. As it happens, I think the government should kick up the annual quota of refugee or humanitarian intake to 25,000. Paradoxically, I suspect that if they did, the queue would get longer.

And of course, we come back to the question some fool asked (ah yes, that was me): if we were to take the illegal immigrants from Nauru and Manus as part of the annual refugee intake, would they take up part of it, so that an equivalent number of genuine refugees, who have done all the right things and waited for years in their desert camps, get pushed back down the queue ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:56:53 PM
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"Hassy, I have read your solution to the refugee problem before and like the true redneck you are, it sickens me". Paul.

Well that certainly tells me I am on the right track.

What a pity it hasn't made you sick enough!
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 2:41:12 PM
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Back to the topic, the Coalition Clowns shot their bolt today and sunk to a new low. The airhead herself, Michaelia Cash tried to throw mud, with totally unsubstantiated claims about Bill Shorten. The claims according to Cash were based on rumor, Cash threatened to spread these rumours about young women in Opposition Leader Bill Shorten's office as a tit for tat response to the 'Bonking Barney Affair' . The disgusting woman threatened to name names, although admitting she had no evidence what so ever, but was still going to "get" people because she feels cheated.
Cash is the minister who tried to invoke the police state last year by politically using the Federal Police to attack Bill Shorten and the Labor Party.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 10:17:05 PM
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