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Is there Greenland ice melt, and is it due to global warming?

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Michael Mann, fabricator of the infamous 'hockey stick', was keynote speaker at last weekend's Pacific Climate Change Conference in New Zealand. He was still spouting about "unprecedented" weather events caused by current climate change. You would think that a publicly exposed liar would shut up and go into seclusion. Not the human-caused climate change liars apparently.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 10:41:49 AM
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Two distinct issues here. The first relates to what is happening. There is now substantial evidence that globally glaciers are in retreat. The second relates to what is the cause of the ice melt not only in Greenland but globally.
Relating specific events to human activity is an imprecise science but as we observe what is happening it does prompt the question what impact will these events have on the way we live our lives.
If Greenland were to revert back to what it was when the Vikings were able to farm then we would also need to know what was happening in the rest of the world. With a population of 6 billion people cannot migrate to lands with a more favourable climate; this in turn means we cannot view events in isolation.
Posted by BAYGON, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 11:58:32 AM
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wasn't it Gore who claimed that England would be without snow by now. Oh well just another false prophecy. abc certainly not willing to hold anyone to account unless of course they disagree with the narratives. The more 'educated' we get the more dumbed down.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:15:17 PM
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runner: wasn't it Gore who claimed that England would be without snow by now. Oh well just another false prophecy.

Well yes. At the moment Europe is in the Grip of a Cold Event which hasn't happened since the Winter of 1944. Snowing in Rome. Feel like 15 degrees below Zero. The UK has issued warnings.

Gore, another false Prophet.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 5:06:09 PM
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Runner,
Gore doesn't "claim" anything as some sort of expert. He is just an commentator in the way that Attenborough talks about the wildlife (that he didn't actually discover).
He's talking about matters that have been under investigation for decades and not from a 2006 documentary that came out of nowhere.

There's also another false claim going around that Greenland was one "green" - hence the name.
It's name comes from "Grund-land", meaning Homeland and has been under ice for at least 10,000 years. It was once so inhospitable that even the hardy Vikings abandoned some of their early settlements.

They are finding that the timing and length of seasons are changing, bringing some benefits but also problems, such as unexpected "snap freezing" and insect plagues. Glacial ice is also disappearing rapidly and not being replaced at the same rate.

People will still be arguing about this as extreme weather events (as predicted back in the 60s) continue and tropical diseases spread into new regions.

I find it amazing that someone who accepts the utter craziest of notions is unable to look at things rationally, critically and without prejudice. Then again, somebody has done your thinking for you.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 3:30:35 PM
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'Gore doesn't "claim" anything as some sort of expert.'

if that is the case Rache why did our dumbed down teachers show his lies at school causing little kids to be scared with fiction?
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 4:07:57 PM
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