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Is there Greenland ice melt, and is it due to global warming?

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On another thread two poster's claimed that there was increased melt of Greenland's ice sheet, without providing proof. I've done a Google search, and can't find anything apart from a reference here http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/11/why-did-greenland-s-vikings-disappear to increased temperatures. However this is contradicted by the graphs and references here http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/02/20/greenland-antarctica-and-dozens-of-areas-worldwide-have-not-seen-any-warming-in-60-years/ So global warming seems not to be an issue in Greenland.

So is the ice melting or not? And if it is, should I be worried? Well, what we can tell from the links I have posted is that if it is warmer now, it was just as warm in the past when Vikings inhabited Greenland.

One also has to deal with the fact that it is below zero a fair bit of the time in Greenland, so a bit of temperature increase won't make much difference http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UO2Q8ObPFWo/VA6anzcQYnI/AAAAAAAAAFg/jbtm5loABFM/s1600/nuuk-climate-graph.gif It might even increase ice cover as there could be more precipitation. So a little bit of global warming, such as we've been having, probably won't make much difference, except that more mass in a glacier makes it move down hill a bit faster.

Interested in what others can dig up on on this issue.
Posted by GrahamY, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 1:22:11 PM
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Start by watching http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/on-top-of-the-world/9371502
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 1:25:26 PM
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Seriously? You'd prefer a doco to actually looking at some data? So if I find a doco that contradicts your doco, then I win the argument? If you don't want to be accurately described as trolling, don't do it. Or if data is too hard for you, just say so.
Posted by GrahamY, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 2:03:17 PM
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It is very hard to believe anything that is said by the climate hysterics. They have told so many lies that have since proven to be lies by responsible scientists, and there is no reason to think this one is a not lie also. Crying 'wolf' and 'crapping in their own nest' come to mind.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 4:01:28 PM
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Dear Grahamy,

I would love to see a doco from a reputable from a reputable source using reputable scientists engaged in the field stating that the ice sheets of Greenland are not melting.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 4:09:22 PM
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They might be melting, but you need more than a doco to prove that. But if they are, the issue would be why. And the data you have here shows temperature hasn't changed in a long time. If no temperature increase, then it can't be global warming. Maybe it's geo-thermal - that's one of the reasons they are melting in Iceland. But that's not global warming either.

As you should appreciate, after interjecting on my threads a lot of times, I actually believe the globe should be warming because of CO2, and I'm continually disappointed that it doesn't appear to be warming as much as predicted, and, in a lot of spots, doesn't appear to be warming at all.
Posted by GrahamY, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 4:32:28 PM
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