AS was pointed out on another thread, Charles Lindberg was a supporter of or, at least, looked favourably on Adolph Hitler and Fascism.

Yet he was an American patriot and had a distinguished war record, having flown some 50 combat missions and shot down at least one Japanese Zero.
He was also responsible for doubling, or almost doubling the effective range of the P38 'Lightning' fighter plane by improving the technique of flying them, this was a major contribution to the war effort and moreover, cost nothing.

In fact, it is doubtful if any other American, or indeed Allied, pilot had a war record as unique as that of Lindbergh.

Hi Issy,

Should we give him a pat on back? Like so many conservatives in the 1930's including the Queens uncle Eddy, Henry Ford, our very own 'Pig Iron' Bob Menzies, founder of the Liberal Party, Lindbergh was duped by Hitler and fascism into thinking it was all a great idea. Clearly Lindbergh was a bigoted racists, even if he did shoot down a Jap observation plane, flying as a civilian. The US government refused him a communion in the Air Force, I wonder why.

Paul,

"The US government refused him a communion in the Air Force, I wonder why."

Perhaps because he wasn't High Church Anglican or Catholic or similar?

Sounds fair enough Issy, must have been with sin. You know that Hitler had "scientific evidence" that the Japanese were Aryan, he just didn't bother telling the big cheese Limburger. Up early "T" gone to NZ for a tangi.

and yet the modern day Marxist/feminist have very much in common with Hitler.

You're right there runner, Hitler liked old Hollywood comedy moves, aka the Marx Brothers, and could have been a secret cross dresser as well. That makes him a Marxist/feminist in my book. Wow!

Issy, while I'm being flippant, I have a question. Do you think that it was possible/probable that when Charlie Limburger was shooting down Jap spy planes over New Guinea, a stray bullet could have hit a certain forumites daddy-in-law who was hiding in a tree in the jungle below. Just asking.

What does the word 'communion' in the USAF mean please? Perhaps it should read 'commission'?

" our very own 'Pig Iron' Bob Menzies, founder of the Liberal Party, ....was duped by Hitler and fascism into thinking it was all a great idea."

I've explained to Paul previously while that's a load of rubbish (both the pig iron lie and that menzies thought fascism was great).

But Paul appears to be enveloped in a deflector shield that doesn't allow any unwanted facts to penetrate. I'd try again but I don't think Paul's shields are ever down.

Paul,

"On July 28, 1944, during a P-38 bomber escort mission with the 433rd Fighter Squadron in the Ceram area, Lindbergh shot down a Sonia observation plane piloted by Captain Saburo Shimada, commanding officer of the 73rd Independent Chutai."
This was after a furious dogfight, the "Sonia" was out-classed by the P38 but your rather dismissive
" Clearly Lindbergh was a bigoted racists, even if he did shoot down a Jap observation plane, flying as a civilian."

The "Sonia" was an armed fighter even though its primary role was observation, you do justice to neither Lindberg nor his opponent, the brave Captain Saburo Shimada, who, by all accounts was no mean fighter pilot.
How was Lindberg a bigoted racist(s)?

Hi Issy,

"the brave Captain Saburo Shimada, who, by all accounts was no mean fighter pilot"

Now, if you could just put up a link showing that Captain Saburo Shimada's war record. And a little reference to his feats of bravery would not be nice as well. Once we sort that out we should be able to move ahead on this.

Charles Lindbergh, who, by all accounts was a bigoted racists.

p/s Do do you know much about Colonel Custer I was thinking of starting a thread. The bloke got the short end of the stick when it comes to his millinery record.

Paul,

"p/s Do do you know much about Colonel Custer I was thinking of starting a thread. The bloke got the short end of the stick when it comes to his millinery record"

I've studied Custer and his times to some extent but I don't know anything about his business interests in the rag trade.

Just Google " Captain Saburo Shimada" and a lot comes up.

That's what I wanted to talk about, there has been lot of discussion about Colonel Custer and his military record. However there is very little about Colonel Custer and his millinery record, in fact nothing at all. I do believe when he wasn't shooting Indians he was at home sowing.
Since you know so much about Limburger, I thought we could talk cheese some time.

Captain Saburo Shimada nothing on his war record. You said he was brave, where is the evidence I asked for.

Your doing well so far.

He engaged in a dog fight with a P38 flying a much slower plane, that's brave in my book.

How is it that you also failed to mention Lindbergh's subsequent career in the US Air Force?

Have you tried Grammarly?
It's a bit "iffy" on Australian idiom but generally a good guide.

He engaged in a dog fight with a P38 flying a much slower plane, that's brave in my book.

Didn't have much choice, now did he, since his plain was slower, he couldn't skedaddle out of their. Dog fight! chihuahua verses a rottweiler.
I do believe he ran home crying to mummy when a little girl pulled his pigtail in the third grade, now that's not very brave.

Have you tried Grammarly? Yes I had it fricasseed, nit very tasty. Maybe I should have added some Lindbergh cheese. Do you have a recipe? I knew you would get around to talking cheese. I'm glad we are not off the topic.

Lindbergh's subsequent career in the US Air Force. now I have mentioned it.

You missed the word sow, like in sow corn. Strike one

//You missed the word sow, like in sow corn.//

Corn? Sows are female pigs. It's a good thing you're not a farmer.

Paul,

Out of your depth again, I see.

How was Lindbergh a racist bigot?

How was Lindbergh a racist bigot? With practice of course. Now that tiresome question is out of the way.

Sows are female pigs, sorry to correct you there Toni, and Issy and meself are unonymous on this. A female pig ( that's the girly ones) is actually a gilt until it farrows at about 12 months of age. Don't ask what farrowing is as I don't have a clue. Now swine are in fact the generic name for all pigs and hogs, just added that for interest.

While some nameless persons, Issy!... were wasting his time watching Porky Pig cartoons.. I on the other hand was being highly edemacated on the alternate Brainy Nerdy Children's TV channel watching scientific stuff, like bugs and slimy things! Thus my vast knowledge on all things scientific!

Toni, are you taking this all in? Over the years on the forum I have been a great educator, influence and tormentor (an experienced and trusted adviser), to my dear forum friend Is Mise, better known to me as Issy.