To David f.

Your wrong because what you've said does not match up with what I've seen. I can say you're wrong because I've seen differently. It's not about belief and forcing my beliefs on you or you forcing your beliefs on me. It's about accurate observations. That is where you're lacking.

Let me put it another way. Let's say you love your wife, and you love your dog. You are attentive and loving to both but in different ways. But here is the test. You wake up with your home on fire. It's already grown to the point that you can only take your dog or your wife (both unconscience) with you to escape. Now which do you take? You take the one you love more. If you loved the other quite a bit still you might risk going back in for the other too, and might not come back out again. But who you take first is the one you love more.

In this sitution as sad as it is to consider, it speaks about loving one more then loving another. But not about not loving the other. That is your mistake. I live in a family that has more then one religion among the members of the family. It has not torn the family apart. Therefore the theory that religion divides a family is not accurate. It does happen, but that does not mean it has to happen.

I'll say it again, so don't gloss over the point. Loving God more then loving your family does not mean to love your family less. Just to love God more.

Dear NNS,

I do not share your delusions. You will not argue me into sharing your delusions. People with delusions are sure they are real. You seem disturbed that I do not share your delusions. Apparently your delusions are roughly the same as many other people have. I accept that. Love is for what is real. It is a wonderful feeling. My grandparents loved me. They do not love me now because they are dead. That is a fact. Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and Judaism do not deal in fact. They all deal in unprovable assertions. I am not going to make you see reason as you are apparently happier with your delusions.

Be happy.

To David f.

You seem focused on me converting you. On me forcing my beliefs on you. And now you seem insulted that I won't turn from my beliefs to yours. Tell me, by looking back through this conversation who has been more forceful with their b life's on the other? I have started this conversation with one point to explore. And instead am thrown into a mess to try and defend my beliefs as a whole. Now tell me. If my defending my faith a point against me? Are you more forceful in your beliefs against Christianity then my tone to defend myself and my perspective.

From someone who is very against missionary actions, you show yourself to be one more then I am.

If you are really happy with my intention to believe what I believe then pay me the same respect I've given you by not insulting said beliefs. Or is delusions not an insult? Is calling my beliefs the same as a gunboat, or a conquering people not meant to be insulting? Have I paid you back in kind? Look back if you don't believe me. I brought this topic to discuss so that my beliefs have a chance to be tested, before being rejected. Though that part of the topic has been ignored, that is my intent. You've joined this discussion to force me to change my beliefs. Look back. Read it again and think it over. Tell me my observation is wrong. Since my observation is not wrong though, I seriously suggest you look back, calm your feelings and then if you can compose yourself, apologize for being to me what I have not been to you. (Though you accuse me of it I every post.

"They're bloody lizards for God's sake. "

Shhhh......they'll hear you.

"When the human race gets subjugated by aliens..."

I'd rather we get subjected by a race like the Vl'Hurgs. The #Resistance will be so much easier...
http://www.hhgproject.org/entries/carelesstalk.html

"We're due to collide with it in about 4 billion years."

I stand corrected. We're doomed. The gubermint should do sumfing.

Dear NNS,

You are absolutely right. I have been a missionary hoping that you would extract yourself from your beliefs. I have no respect for your beliefs because I think they are rubbish.

Calling your beliefs delusions is an insult. However, that's what I think they are. I am not really happy with the millions of people who have shared your beliefs because I think much harm has been done by Christianity.

However, you are right. Calling your beliefs delusions and calling you the face of evil is insulting. Yes, I have been both angry and insulting.

I have been exposed to too many like you to feel calm about it. I have read too much of history to feel calm about what Christians have done.

However, you were not defending your faith. Nobody was attacking your faith.

In your first post you wrote: "I hope you find Him if you haven't already."

You started out with the hope people would find what you have found. You were trying from the beginning post to get others to adopt your faith. Don't be surprised or hurt when you try to push your faith on others that others push back. We missionaries have to accept that others object to our missionizing. We have to accept that others might not take our missionizing calmly. I do not take your missionizing calmly, and you do not take my objections calmly.

//I'd rather we get subjected by a race like the Vl'Hurgs. The #Resistance will be so much easier...//

I suppose it wouldn't be too bad to be floopily subjugated by the Matresses.

http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Mattresses

But they don't really seem the subjugating type.

Reptilian jokes aside, I'm less concerned about any future arrival of Vogon Constructor Fleets or Krikkit robots than I am by the fact that we appear to be under the governance of the inhabitants of the Golgafrinchan Ark Ship B... and nobody seems to have noticed.

http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Golgafrincham