//If you care about anyone, you don't live and let live, you become part of their lives and when there is need or concern you try to help them.//

And if they neither require nor desire the sort of 'help' that you offer, you'll go right ahead and 'help' them anyway, all the while patting yourself on the back for being such a good bloke for doing them such a big 'favour'. But then, it's never really been about what other people need, has it? Because if it was, you'd be asking them what they need instead of telling them. And then patronisingly insisting that they're wrong when they disagree.

Hell is full of good meanings, but heaven is full of good works.

Did you know that the Inquistion always firmly believed that they were carrying out God's work? They justified their horrific crimes to themselves with the belief that they were really helping all the poor bastards they murdered - that torturing people was doing them a genuine favour if it saved them from eternal damnation.

Now, don't go getting the wrong end of the stick here: I'm not comparing you or any other modern missionaries to those barbaric pricks. I'm just using them as rather extreme example of how certain religious views can lead people to thinking that they are doing tremendous good, when it really doesn't seem that way from the outside looking in.

//I will not stop telling people about God, or about what I've come to know through a Christian understanding. Because God is real and apparently a large portion of the world doesn't even know.//

No, that's really not the case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Religious_demographics

As you can see from the pie chart, only 16.3% of the world's population are irreligious. The problem is that you're so full of missionary zeal that you don't consider the 52.2% that are religious but not Christian to be properly religious, and lump them in with the irreligious as well. It's not evil, but it very arrogant, patronising and annoying to dismiss other people's deeply held religious beliefs as worthless fairy-tales because you KNOW your god is real.

Because here's the thing: they KNOW their Gods are real too.

//It took me enough time after highschool to get past the perspectives pushed that men are evil, and whites are evil.//

Let us hope then that with sufficient time you may be able to get past your quaint notion that non-Christians are sinful or evil because they don't share your faith.

If one has a mild delusion that was does not interfere with their work or make them a threat to society they are left alone by the authorities. However, I believe many inhabitants of mental institutions think they are God or Jesus. Their delusions have become so severe that they must be institutionalised.

As far as I know nobody has been hospitalized because they think they are Richard Dawkins or Albert Einstein.

Christians exist in various modes. Some manage to be rational while comparting their religion to the non-rational parts of their brain. Others allow the delusions to affect them to a greater or lesser degree.

To David F. In the fist post of page 41 you said:

[You didn't know about Luther, and you probably don't know how Christianity has been spread. Christian missionaries have been associated with gunboats and political power. Go and learn.

It is an ugly history. In my opinion you are the face of evil.]

But now at the bottom of page 43, you say differently.

[I am not angry with you. I don't know you, and I assume you are a good person filled with good intentions. I also assume you have been brain-washed by an evil religion that has given you fantasies to support your belief. I see you as a victim rather than an evil person.]

Take in the two accusations. And hear me out. They are not the same thing to be the face of evil and to be a victim of evil. Perhaps you meant one and the other was an exaggeration to make a point. Perhaps you didn't mean either but they are both an exaggeration. But I see these two points as conflicting. We all know what it means to be a victim, but I'm beginning to wonder if evil is a term just tossed out now a days to make a point, but with no relevance any more.

Evil is Catholic priests raping children in their parishes and the organization of the Catholic Church shuffling the priests around to avoid justice for them, as well as hiding any of the crimes once it is known. Evil is a terrorist organization that places bombs in crowded building to harm and scare those inside, then wait outside to shoot down anyone panicking and leaving. Evil is organized crime with mobsters and gangs promoting vile acts of both rape and murder so that the one being initiated can prove themselves to their peers.

Evil can be done on a smaller scale too. Individuals without an orginization behind them can be both serial rapists and serial murderers. They can heap abuses on the innocent, the weak, or those who unknowingly trust them because of their profession.

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If I have done anything that counts as evil. Point it out. I count evil as truely wrong. Not something relative to a person, where one's morals say one thing and another's says something different. Evil exists in the world, and personally I want no part of it. The claim to being evil likewise should not be used just to make a point.

I am neither brainwashed nor a victim. But if you don't believe me, that's a lesser issue to me then being the face of evil. Which if either of these points do you actually mean? Am I evil because I speak openly about my faith? Does that make me an oppressor? I'll say it again. Judge your own judgements. Look at them as you apply them to me, as well as you likely apply to any other Christian individually.

Christianity is evil. It asks people to accept primitive legends when there is a wonderful world out there which science and reason make us aware of. It rots the mind. It has a history of intolerance and violence. In trying to spread it you are the face of that evil. Although you may be a good person with good intentions you are in the service of that evil cult. As a child when I asked my father what he would do if he thought God was asking him to sacrifice me he said he would see a psychiatrist. He knew that something would be wrong if he thought God was telling him to do something. You come on and write about knowing God. My father was wise enough to know that is sheer rubbish and no more reasonable than knowing Zeus, Apollo, Thor or any of the other deities that humans have invented. Just as you feel you should spread that evil crap I feel I should make my opposition known, and I have.

A scientist said, "Good people do good things, and bad people do bad things. For good people to do bad things it takes religion."

As I said before about loving God. Show me a God I can love. The nasty deity described in the Bible is not worthy of my love.

As Toni Lavis has pointed out there are many non-Christians who love the God they believe in. Are they all wrong? I think they are all wrong, and I think you are just as wrong as they are.

I love my wife. She is a real person and not a creature of someone's imagination. If she had the power I am sure she would not destroy most of life on earth in a flood or subject her son to torture and death. She is worthy of my love. Your God isn't.