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Love the Lord with all your heart.

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To David f.

[All religions are human inventions.]

[You admit that you know little of other beliefs, and you probably have no desire to learn since you have what you are convinced is true. Sadly there are probably many like you.]

[Your message is simple. You claim that what you believe is true and what others who don't believe what you do are in error]

First, don't count all religions as the same. That is an error to impede people from searching through any. Second. You can base each religion and each belief on it's own merit. If they hold up then that's great. I no longer search other religions like I use to. I focus my efforts on God because I've found that to be reliable and true. It is not a sad element to find a truth and build a foundation on it. Instead of keep searching and never committing.

Third. My beliefs are strong. But I also believe that experience is more authoritative then belief. If someone else shares their belief, I do consider it. If they share their experiences I consider it more. But I am not wrong about God. He is not a man-made invention. Man is a God-made invention. The only thing with more authority then our experiences is God Himself. Everything else we test with our senses (experience) or use a lesser evidence of deductive reasoning. But God is both real and trustworthy. You might not believe that, but it is the truth. His words won't let us down. Best case argument is that I am wrong about God. Not that He doesn't exist.

My consistent message is to seek Him yourself to see if I am right or not. That's the simple message.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:12:37 AM
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(Psa 94:8) Understand, you beastly ones among the people; and fools, when will you be wise?

(Psa 94:9) He who planted the ear, shall He not hear? He who formed the eye, shall He not see?

(Psa 94:10) He who chastens the nations, shall He not correct, He who teaches man knowledge?

(Psa 94:11) Jehovah knows the thoughts of man, that they are vain.

no pysch could sum up the deniers as well as this.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:55:50 AM
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"These abundant historical references leave us with little reasonable doubt that Jesus lived and died. The more interesting question – which goes beyond history and objective fact – is whether Jesus died and lived."

See: Simon Gathercole [who]is Reader in New Testament Studies at the University of Cambridge.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 28 January 2018 10:49:49 AM
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The French live in Paris.

Italians live in Rome.

Russians live in Moscow.

But English live at home.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 28 January 2018 10:55:18 AM
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Dear Not_Now.Soon,

Why do you need more miracles when the fact of your own consciousness is the greatest miracle of all?

If you want, I can (reluctantly) provide you with lots of pointers to Hindu miracles - in ancient scripture, in modern scripture and information I have from people I know (for me that's 2nd hand, for you it would be 3rd hand). But please think carefully before you ask me: given that your faith depends that much on miracles, I have no desire to spoil it!

This reliance on miracles is unhealthy. I think you would know this already from Deuteronomy 13:1-3.

While some Hindu sects like to talk about miracles more than others, Hinduism itself (perhaps unlike Christianity) does not rely on miracles.

Hinduism acknowledges that miracles occur, but warns against making a big deal of them. Specifically, Patanjali's Yoga Sutras describes the miracles that will almost-inevitably occur along our spiritual path, but explains that these can distract and side-track us from the path. As wonderful as miracles can be, one should ignore them and continue on the straight and narrow.

Sincerely, I think that you should continue to progress steadily along your Christian path, rather than zigzag and seek another god every time you see a miracle happen to worshippers through other gods.

«As for God verses god. You and I do not agree on who God is or what He is.»

This is very good. You consider the biblical god of Israel to be God, whereas I understand that in reality, the biblical god of Israel is only a representation of God which you personally use for approaching God. I am happy with this: it works for you, so let's leave it at that. What I am not happy with, is your disrespect for other people who use other gods in the same (or similar) manner as the way you use the biblical god of Israel.

«there are too many conflicting paths»

Paths conflict only when the same person attempts to traverse them simultaneously. No conflict is present when two different people traverse two different paths.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 28 January 2018 10:58:49 AM
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A belief in god doesn't automatically mean a belief in Christ or any other religious figure. Many people believe in god without religious affiliation.
Men have believed in god/gods since the beginning of time. I think it is an instinctive response to the hope that life doesn't end with the death of the physical body. Most people find it hard to cope with the concept that at death they will simply cease it exist, in some form.
Faith is a great comfort to many many people and is what has sustained them through some pretty horrific circumstances and who has the right to ridicule anyone's personal beliefs?
The belief in the existence of a god is no less credible than the belief that the universe was created from nothing but a Big Bang.
Posted by Big Nana, Sunday, 28 January 2018 12:58:19 PM
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