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Love the Lord with all your heart.

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David f, are you related to that other David mentioned earlier? You both have the same name.
Sister Mary said the Catholic nonsense was fair dinkum' nonsense, where as the Protestant nonsense, particularly that C of E nonsense, was exactly that... NONSENSE! And I must say there was no better authority on nonsense than Sister Mary, she sure knew plenty of it.

I to asked my Dear Old Dad what he would do if he heard a voice from God telling him to sacrifice me. Dear old Dad did not disappoint. He told me "That would be a hard decision son, I wouldn't know if I should cut your throat, or disembowel you." I was relieved, I always knew Dear Old Dad would make the right decision.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 27 January 2018 9:17:43 PM
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//Artificial insemination was also used in Ancient Egypt//

Yes, of course it was. [sarcasm]

You haven't been watching History Channel documentaries have you?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 27 January 2018 9:43:00 PM
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To David f.

If any other religion's gods, showed signs of being real, then we can talk about choices.

My knowledge base on other religions is very small when it comes to their experiences with the god of their beliefs. Reading their texts and knowing their traditions aren't enough to know the merit of the god they believe in. If there are historical and modern day events that have that kind of intervention, then I might consider it.

Until then, the various stories of answered prayers, miracles, Angels, NDEs, and a few other things that give Christian and Jewish faith merrit are what I know, and what seperates that religion from the thousands of other religions. And seperates God from the thousands of other gods.

To Toni Lavis. Whether you believed in a pantheism religion, or in anything else you still need saved. We all do. We need a Redeemer. We live in a broken and breaking world, and we are all part of it. On some things people say, don't do this or don't do that. And it can be thought of as a choice to be a good person or not. But on other things, people say to not be nieve. This is the way the world is, and the way it works. Usually the difference is when you talk about one person's personal choice, verses one person trying to do right in either the business elements of the world or the political element of the world. Or it gone up when talking about our own safety and taking measures to stay safe (such as locking your doors), because that's the way the world is.

Your philosophy makes you think you don't need to be saved. Which makes you blind on that aspect. Both Jewish and Christian faiths acknowledge that we need God to save us. Christians believe they need to be saved, and are thankful we have a savior. The rest of the world also needs to be saved to. Regardless of your beliefs or your attitude. You personally also need to be saved.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 28 January 2018 4:54:17 AM
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Dear Not_Now.Soon,

Christianity and Judaism do not own God - all religious people worship the same God.

It is arrogant to call the god (or deity) through which you worship God, 'God' with a Capital-G while calling the gods through which other people worship the same and only God, just 'god' with a small-g.

God cannot be fathomed or even imagined by the human mind, how less so described in words, yet humans need something a bit more tangible and/or comprehensible, some image and/or an idea to hold onto, which POINTS to God, represents Him/Her/It, supports and inspires us to seek Him/Her/It and walk in His/Her/Its ways, and so they created and keep creating gods.

The Judeo-Christian god which you worship is one of them. I am glad that you are able to use that biblical image for your spiritual progress and I support you in that, but your progress is hindered by disrespecting the images which other people chose and use in order to attain the very same and only God.

You already asked me before about miracles in Hinduism. I responded that there is plenty of literature, including modern and including evidence which I heard in person from people involved. I didn't elaborate too much about it as I am not personally into it, but that does not allow you to ignore the many miracles that occur all around us, except when they happen to Christians.

Yes, we all need to be saved - and we all shall eventually be, by God's grace alone, but this doesn't mean that we all shall be saved at the same time and by the same Godly person.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 28 January 2018 6:16:53 AM
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Dear Not_Now.Soon,

Your message is simple. You claim that what you believe is true and what others who don't believe what you do are in error. Some other religions have that same idea. Some Muslims believe that non-Muslims are destined for hell. There is no arguing with such a mindset. You have your counterparts in other faiths.

All religions are human inventions, and I see no need to believe any of them.

However, some claim the object of worship by whatever name is it called is essentially the same. These people are not fanatics, and one can live peacefully with them.

Your mindset is the source of crusades and jihads.

You admit that you know little of other beliefs, and you probably have no desire to learn since you have what you are convinced is true. Sadly there are probably many like you.

None of us will be saved. We will all eventually die, and that will be the end of us. According to scientists the planet and other parts of the universe will eventually be lifeless. The whole business may recycle. It may not. We don't know.

While we are alive we can live with other life. We can be humble enough to realise we are finite beings who live in a vast universe. We can realise that our knowledge is only sand on the beach of a sea of ignorance. We can enjoy love and picking up pebbles on the beach
Posted by david f, Sunday, 28 January 2018 7:56:32 AM
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To Yuyutsu. I don't live in a culture where I see the stories of miracles from Hinduism. I do live in a culture where there is a ton of philosophy about God, about spirituality and in general theories about what we are as spiritual beings or as human in general.

My figuring is that there is too much theory to conflict and confuse people without any reliability in those theories or beliefs. Cutting through that we can look straight at what happens to people, not what they believe. If something happens and supports a belief, such as a miracle in Hinduism, I would very much like to find them and be encouraged by them. It is not out of ignoring these events that I don't speak about them. It's that I don't know them at all. As far as I'm aware they don't happen. Where as miracles from answered prayers or otherwise that I know from my culture, I know of them. I know people who have their own stories to consider them.

As for God verses god. You and I do not agree on who God is or what He is. I can not see every religion as a path to God, because like I said before there are too many conflicting paths. If I see the merit of other gods, then I might accept as something more then as David f. and many others view my beliefs, and your beliefs. Just something imagined.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:10:16 AM
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