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Dear Joe,

More on the map of the massacres -
The link answers your question - "How do we know it
happened?"

This map details the sources of evidence and is a
useful tool for history students, schools, and
the general public.

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/newsroom/featured-news/mapping-the-massacres-of-australias-colonial-frontier

Loudmouth: A bit racist: neither you or anybody should have the right to dictate what people can and can't do. Any more than the fantasists who think they can put all Whitefellas on boats and send them back to Europe. Racist, both ways.

Racist? It wasn’t meant to be from my prospective. I was only going on the Blackfellas that want to put all us Whitefellas on a boat. If they want “Their Country” back & want their “Old Traditions, Ceremonies, etc”. Then I say they can have it back, but only on the condition they get a clean slate. Like it was in 1770. We (The UN) would protect them from the outside World, not allowing any other country take advantage of a semi vacant land & what lies with-in. I don’t see it a Racist appeasing all those nice City Bread Aboriginals Academics that do all the demonstrating & whinging.

I can’t see us White Fellas walking off & invading Europe. So, the next best thing would be to provide some Prime Land stocked with plenty of Emu’s & Kangaroo’s, even some pointy sticks, but nothing else. They would have no need for money. Let’s face it they were Nomadic Hunter Gatherers sans clothing or housing. Spearing a Wallaby & chucking it whole on the Hot Coals, sans skinning or gutting then tearing it to pieces with their hands. I’m sure they would love that way of life, or so they say they would.
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Now those who wish to divest themselves & treat their ”Old Traditions & Ceremonies” as us White fellas do. The Greeks have their “Throwing the Cross in the River Day” The Scots have “Burns Day” The Irish have “St Patricks Day” just to name a few. Then we go back to being Australians. Everybody joins in celebrating each others Day. It’s great & so it should be. At the end of the Day we go back to all being Australian & being treated equally. No special treatment for one section of Australian Society even if they are First Australians. In fact, let’s have a “First Nations Day.” That way we could all celebrate their Traditions & Culture with them on that day.

People go on about equality especially the Left Greenie faction, well, let’s have Equality, for all.

The other alternative is for all to marry into the aboriginal race and the problem would be solved.

Dear Foxy,

Thank you for the map. I noticed that even though it is just listing those in the Eastern States there was one showing for SA which was strange because Joe had told us the situation in SA was that there were plenty of killings “but White-on-Black massacres, no.”.

I thought it was referring to the Avenue Range Station Massacre in which at least 9 aborigines were slaughtered over the theft of some sheep.

“Those killed were a blind old man, three women, two teenage girls, and three female children including a baby.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenue_Range_Station_massacre

But it was instead of the Narracorte Caves where 6 were shot.

Joe's language has now changed however and he now talks about “there seemed not to have been ANY unprovoked killings” in SA. So it seems his measure for provocation for slaughter includes stealing some sheep.

Either way he needs to be taken with a large grain of salt. He appears willing to dismiss any claim of massacres on the flimsiest of excuses. It will be interesting to see him explain away each of the SA listings when they ultimately appear on the map.

If the claim is that Australia was invaded by a British army as SteeleRedux claims, I'm afraid aboriginals have lost claim to traditional lands. However that is not the case as the British troops were here to manage the penal colonies, and manage relationships between the aboriginals and the settlers. Not to war against the aboriginal inhabitants.

I had lived in and near Richmond NSW for over 50 years and know that Memorials exist for the Daruk people at St John of God Hospital at Grose Vale, that the Youth Detention Centre was called Daruk, that National Park is called Daruk. Hardly an eradication of the aboriginal links to the land. I worked with local aboriginal people in attempting to retain native land from development.

In fact the Battle of Vinegar Hill at Rouse Hill was between the convicts and the troops, nothing to do with aboriginals.

"The mostly Irish rebels, having gathered reinforcements, were hunted by the colonial forces until they were sequestered on 5 March 1804 on a hillock nicknamed Vinegar Hill. Under a flag of truce, Cunningham was arrested and troops charged and the rebellion was crushed by a raid. Nine of the rebel leaders were executed and hundreds were punished before martial law was finally revoked a week after the battle."

In fact the Myall Creek Massacre was not carried out by troops but stockmen who were hanged under British justice for their crimes of murder.