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My 58 year old son has been diagnosed with a very malignant brain tumour.
He was operated on but they could not remove it all. Since then it has rapidly regrown and he has been given only a short time to live.
He has lost the use of his legs and behaves irrationally at times.
For years now he has been addicted to diet Cola and drinks about five or more a day.
I did some research and found that there is quite strong evidence that the Aspartame in diet Cola drinks can cause bad side effects including brain tumours.
I cannot say for sure that it was the Aspartame that caused his tumour but I suspect there is a link.
Now I discover that President Trump drinks around a dozen diet Cokes a day.
This must be a worry to the American people now he is in a position of such authority.
I hope that he either gives up the sugar drink or gives up the presidency very soon.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/old_articles/toxic/aspartame.php
Posted by Robert LePage, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 3:13:21 PM
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Robert one thing you may not be taking into account, not everyone is effected by the same things.

Some people eat peanuts and can die or go into shock others don't.

Some people eat lots of junk food and get fat others don't.

Some people drink or eat things that give them diabetes while other are not effected.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 4:06:51 PM
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Sorry about your son, but there is no evidence that his "addiction" to Coke has anything whatever to with his cancer. Did health professionals suggest it might? Or are you relying on your own "research"?

I am also amazed that you could go from what must be a tragedy for you to remarking on hearsay and suggesting that Trump might be affected by drinking Coke - if indeed he does to the extent hearsay has it. The tales about Trump have reached the hysterical. Not the sort of rubbish I would have thought anyone would muddy the possible terminal condition of a loved one with.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 4:19:31 PM
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Dear Robert,

I am so sorry to hear about your son.

Mine also drinks diet coke. And it is a concern.

I used to drink it myself until my heart
specialist banned it.
In my case there was a link between diet coke and
my atrial fibrilation (heart palpitations). I've been
diagnosed with pulmonary hypertension. I've totally
given up diet coke.

Thank You for taking the time to share your news with
us and for your concern about others.

I wish you and your family all the best.

My prayers go with you.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 7:14:13 PM
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sorry to hear Robert. I lost a brother to a brain tumour in his 40's. He drank a fair bit of beer but never drank diet soft drinks as far as I know. Bit of a cheap shot re Trump.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 11:05:47 PM
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There are eight cancers scientifically attributed to alcohol, not to mention its effect on the brain. As far as I am aware, there is no link between cancer and soft drinks. Obesity seems to be the main concern.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 11 January 2018 8:27:07 AM
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Hi there ROBERT LePAGE...

I'm also very sorry to hear of your son's condition, and can only hope the Doctors are wrong and his tumour goes into remission.

I too consume large amounts of Diet Coke and Pepsi, which I'm sure does me no good either. However with respect you've made a bit of a reach to infer President TRUMP is addicted to the stuff, consequently it may be affecting him in some way? I sincerely hope your young bloke improves, I really do.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 11 January 2018 11:41:32 AM
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I am going to be harsh now but at times we have to be. Cheap shot it certainly was about Trump and Robert's whole silly business. I can understand your grief and blindly lashing out but having a shot at Trump?
Please Robert, get a grip and try and be rational.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 11 January 2018 12:05:06 PM
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If you look at the sweetener in Diet Coke and Coke Zero both have Aspartame which in the body turns into formaldehyde. However you would need to consume quantity to do harm. https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/aspartame-safe-sweetener-or-perilous-poison/
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 11 January 2018 6:23:18 PM
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Aspartame is a horrible substance.

Sugar on the other hand is quite benign - better have the ordinary soft drinks than their "diet" counterparts.

Coke however contains so many other poisons - don't come near it!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 12 January 2018 4:12:29 AM
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ttbn:
how silly of me to warn you off aspartame. Please go for it and drink it by the gallon.
In fact if you are in the Hobart area I will donate some to you.
I bow to your obviously superior scientific knowledge and wish you well into the future.
As for Mr Trump, I do apologise for slandering such a caring intelligent person.
I mean who else but a man of his obvious talents would have been elected as president of the United States?
Posted by Robert LePage, Saturday, 13 January 2018 10:38:39 AM
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Robert,

I am honoured that you have singled me out even though others responded in much the same way I did to your cheap shot about Trump, your iffy 'reasearch', and the callous use of your son's illness for political reasons. But, perhaps you are not callous, and have cynically invented the whole thing.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 13 January 2018 11:41:47 AM
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I have always enjoyed carbonated, 'soft drinks'. As a younger man I would choose different flavours as the norm. At some point I decided that I would move away from sugar based drinks. It might have been around the time 'Diet Coke' came out.

I drank it for some time but was always put off by the after taste of the 'fake' sugar.

Then along came 'Zero' and I was immediately sold on it. Gone was the after taste and I found it to be 'fit for purpose', and still do today.

I am overweight (approx 135kg) at first I attributed this to the sugar.

But since a major medical emergency some years ago and the fact that I am regularly checked, I find all my stats are within the lines. With the exception of my kidneys. No this is as a result of my emergency.

As part of my health check I visited a urologist. Having nothing to do with my visit and mostly because my wife has been 'ear-bashing' me over my preference to drinking Zero, I took the opportunity to ask him about Coke Zero.

He was writing at that moment, he stopped, put his pen down, looking a little annoyed at being interrupted with such a mundane question, and very firmly said. 'It's water, what about it? I explained my wife's concerns, who by the way was sitting next to me. He repeated himself, 'it's just water with some flavouring'. And went on writing.

Now this is a professional in this very field, and to be honest I was both grateful and slightly curious that he did not come straight out with, 'No it's not good for you so stop drinking it immediately'.

Go figure?

(Oh BTW my emergency was an aortic dissection and the kidney took the major hit as the organs began shutting down. So I was told after my return to land of the living.)

I know what some of you are thinking. If my kidneys are compromised why am I stressing them further with soft drink and all it's baddies?

I'm human?
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 21 January 2018 11:52:55 PM
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Thank you ALTRAV...

For sharing your medical episode with us all. I too guzzle 'Zero' having given up 'strong drink and bad women' over half a century ago (I'm nearly eighty years now). I too have consumed literally gallons of all varieties of Coke since my military days in the mid sixties. The yanks with whom I served, used to freight in pallets 'n pallets of the stuff to keep their troops well watered and thus satisfied in order to do battle with the bad guys.

Consequently, I've spoken to many Doctors over the years who're forever telling me the dangers associated with the excessive consumption of Coca Cola, as I 'again' consumed litres of the stuff, when on night shift with the coppers. To a point, that I'm somewhat surprised, the Executives at Coca Cola in Atlanta, in the US haven't offered me some stock in their giant Corporation?

In conclusion, I've never seen someone who's consumed excessive amounts of Coke, in all it's many varieties; ever lash out, and start physically attacking innocent people, similar to those who've consumed illicit drugs similar to ICE, or too much alcohol.
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:24:22 AM
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Rather than bad-mouthing soft drinks, people should be thinking about the really bad effects of alcohol, a deadly poison to humans. The latest findings - one alcoholic drink every 10 days markedly increases males chance off copping prostate cancer. No good telling drinkers this, of course.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:54:06 AM
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one thing for sure and that is medical science is far from settled when it comes to cancer. Diet is certainly only one part of the eqaution. Even the topic of cancer treatments like chemo are hotly debated. Thank God that Jesus revealed the eternal rather than the few breaths we have here on earth.
Posted by runner, Monday, 22 January 2018 11:11:22 AM
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Hi there RUNNER...

I think I've admitted to you and others, that I'm very much an atheist. That said, the amount of comfort, and relief that many people get from following a peaceful spiritual path, like that of Christianity, I'd never in anyway criticise it or the people that derive benefit from it. Unlike the evils perpetrated by some of the followers of the Islamic Religion, who's primary aim appears to be, to inflict hurt and kill others.

Off topic I know - when one takes the time to read a little on Jurisprudence, it's easy to see where many of our laws have come from - The Ten Commandments. I'm absolutely no expert on these matters?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 22 January 2018 12:25:09 PM
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