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Royal Commission’s Findings into Institutions and Child Sex Abuse .

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o sung wu, "Something that does puzzle me, why aren't these slugs being given up by their own kind.."

That sounds like a more productive line of investigation and a move away from the ideological political partisanship and political point scoring.

The public's credulity is sorely stretched by the denials of the leaders and the colleagues of the offenders. Examples could be Saville and the ABC, or Queensland Labor and Keith Wright or Bill D'Arcy. Remembering though that it isn't only child sex offences that 'escape' the knowledge of their mates and leaders. Taking Labor again for convenience,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

Sadly, it seems to be a OLO (and social media) tradition to neglect earlier posts, however I'd like to draw attention to my earlier post, on page 1,

leoj, Saturday, 16 December 2017 8:06:56 AM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8064&page=1

Just to say, o sung wu, that offenders can be very clever, often hiding out front and they are clever and manipulative. Their leaders must rationalise their own complicity (as the public would see it) in not investigating any first signs and by avoiding an audit of compliance with acceptable behaviour standards.

I might also draw a parallel with the sorry record of federal parliamentarians in the dual citizenship saga. Not as nasty an offence, but nonetheless another example of unethical leaders and political convenience that suits them. Then they have the hide to say that a public servant should take the responsibility while they take the $$.

Then there is the example of the billion dollar illicit drug industry that constantly evades solution. But one of the very first actions of the elected Qld Labor government is to disband the highly effective police team and cooperation that has been getting on top of criminal gangs. When Labor's Palaszczuk came to power originally, her first target was to 'deep six' the successful anti bikie (anti criminal gang) VLAD law that had been cleared by the High Court.

I will believe that the politicians are getting serious about offences committed against children when they support police in investigating and charging leaders. Fat chance of that, huh?
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 7:56:51 AM
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I thought I might give another example, this time from work and thinking of those dangerous and dirty male jobs in construction and mining in particular.

To cut to the chase, there will never be safe working environments until the head decision maker, the CEO, is held directly and PERSONALLY responsible for sloppy or non-existent compliance with available workplace safety regulations.

That would go down like a lead balloon with Australian federal politicians who can get away with avoiding Ministerial responsibility and muddying the waters even more so as they thumb their noses at the public they are supposed to be serving,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_ministerial_responsibility

All should understand that it is crucial given the trust and power vested in senior decision makers that they stand down, resign, at the whiff of things going wrong. Think about why, good people!
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 8:24:49 AM
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There seems to be a hatred-competition going on here.

I am not in your league, guys.

I find this culture of hatred and delight in punishment, worse than all harm ever done by paedophiles.

This witch-hunt caused more collateral damage than the damage it sought to prevent:

Intergenerational social cohesiveness was broken. An invisible barrier was created and adults no longer dare, and in some cases not even allowed, to play or talk with children (without any sexual intent). All friendship between adults and minors is considered sexually-suspicious, even when it isn't. Adults are no longer allowed to express this part of them which is still a child. Adults are now too afraid to help children in distress. No males take the risk of becoming school-teachers and men are even afraid to go out their front-door when children are playing at the other end of the street. Red-tape was added to employment to the degree that jobs are lost and private practitioners cannot start businesses. I even know of a case of a boy who failed a subject in year 12 and when he wanted to complete it the next year, he was told to obtain a police-clearance... just to stay with his school-mates, because he meanwhile turned 18 - so he didn't complete that course.

The very existence of this fear campaign, causes people to think of sex whenever they see a child, that being the closest connotation, including those who never had such thoughts before. These fearful thoughts can become obsessive and I wonder how many new paedophiles were created this way?

Previously, child and now-young-adult sexual-victims who didn't want others to find what happened to them, were able to obtain confidential professional counselling/therapy. Now they can't.
Paedophiles too, who were disgusted and fed-up with their condition and sought a cure, could previously obtain confidential professional counselling/therapy. Now they can't.

Now authorities seek to block all remaining avenues for healing as well: the confessional, spiritual/therapeutic workshops, and just the private ears of any trusted good-Samaritan. This leaves but one option for victims and remorseful perpetrators alike - suicide!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 9:15:54 AM
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Yuyutsu,

Good summing up of the rot that has set in, impairing peoples' natural humanity. Should I be required, in the future, to give help to women or children which would entail physical contact, I will not be rendering any assistance to them. Nobody, particularly females, can be trusted these days. We men have to protect ourselves.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 9:31:35 AM
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Citizens are not able to enter windows at night to learn about what valuables are there . Commbank wants to help free flow of funds to boost Chinese drug enterprises and the cops hit them . Disgrace.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 9:40:40 AM
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AJ,

"Now that you mention it, I would suggest that most offenders in the Church were homosexual.

But, again, not for any homophobic reasons that you may have had in mind."

The only reason that I had for mentioning it is that it's not PC to do so and not conducive to vote catching.

Paedophilia might also be genetic in some cases.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 9:43:11 AM
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