Foxy is now doing 'repeats. Same stupid comments for anyone who dares criticise her ladyship. It's a bit sad, really, having to keep on excusing such a massive ego as she does. She is a real bore now. Time for me to leave her festering and get on with things. She'll probably go for the 'last word', which is typical of the type, but I won't be looking.

ALTRAV,

It's simple. Islam cannot be compared with anything else; it is evil, homicidal and in love with death. Apart from the few Muslims who descended from 'camel drivers', there should be no Muslims living in Australia. Stupidly, and despite all the evidence, politicians have steadily imported these people, most of whom are of no practical use to the country at all. Australia will never be safe while there are Muslims living here. No other group - and we certainly have many non-Anglo, non-Christian groups among us - have ever caused us problems. Islam and it's adherents are a huge problem, and they will always be so. They are at war with us, and the gutless wonders in Canberra don't want to fight the war.

Dear AC,

Why don't you start with your first post on
page 1 of this discussion and read what you
have written, then continue from there.
You absolutely vilify all Muslim people.
You state "Keep that shite in Britain thanks -
don't infect my country with your madness..."
And then it gets worse.

You make no distinction between fundamentalists,
extremists, terrorists, and the Muslim
population in general. Your words are rooted
in generalisations and you ignore the
differences among individuals. Your attitude is
irrational, and inflexible toward an entire
category of people.

Your words do violate our vilification laws.
You are preaching hate speech. And our
freedom of speech guidelines do not allow this.

There are also certain rules and etiquettes
that people are supposed to follow on public
forums. It's called civil behaviour, common
decency, and courtesy.

But as I stated quite clearly earlier I am in
no position to be able to change someone who
sees nothing wrong with their actions.
And obviously you don't.

Foxy, I applaud your love for life and your fellow man. You are the kind of person I would prefer over many others. (Yes we all have differing views and we argue and abuse each other and so on.)You sound as though you reach out to people, and that's commendable, BUT, what I think we are all afraid of is not the good, nice, normal Muslims, but the bad nasty ones. Now you and I and many Westerners can't tell the difference between the good the bad and the ugly, (Figure of speech). A Muslim can. I have asked the question before; these terrorists are well known amongst their friends and family. It is precisely this reason we are skeptical about them. If the Good ones were well intended, they would speak up in some way or another. But they don't therefore making them complicit in the terrorist attacks. It is a shame because generally I have found that ALL people the World over are basically good and just want to live their lives just like us.

Hey Foxy,
Yep, make no mistake I said that and I stand by it.
But lets keep 'what I said' in the right context.

Immediately after saying "Keep that shite in Britain thanks, don't infect my country with your madness";
I also said:

"I say NO to Muslim gang rapings,
No to Muslim Terrorism and Extremism;
No to Muslims blocking local streets whilst engaged in prayer
NO to Muslims making kids in OUR SCHOOLS cite the Koran and threaten to BEHEAD OUR TEACHERS.
And I say NO to and all the rest of your garbage."

Did I not?
Do you support these things Foxy?

Lets look specifically at "...all the rest of your garbage"
Lets look at what Iktifar said:

First he stated that Brits are 'reverting' to Islam which somehow seems to suggest that Britain was traditionally a Muslim country, which is false.
What about the traditional British people who lived there who weren't ever Muslim?
Isn't his statement ignoran't in that it doesn't account for all the people who live there?
But that's a side issue - and I digress;

Then he quotes G.B.Shaw, which he actually quoted incorrectly;
Correct quote should have read:
"...the wonderful man and in my opinion FAR from being an anti-Christ..."

Lets look at what Iktifar proposed:

"...state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers, sharia laws and sharia councils, Islamic marriage ceremony in local Masajid, halal meat, two religious holidays per year and Muslim cemeteries. These demands..."

He wants these things?
His own schools just for his 'people'; his own teachers just for his 'people'; his own 'system of justice' etc.
- In my country; and HE WANTS ME TO PAY FOR IT.
Focus on the word 'demand' again.

Who exactly is being offensive 'demanding a seperate system of justice' for themselves and their 'own people'.
I find that offensive.

Lets look at what else I said:

"Yours is a religion of slavery;
Yours is a religion of subjugation of women;
Yours is a religion of using violence and fear for an close-minded authoritarian ideology.
Yours is a religion that caused the deaths of millions of people.

I don't care for you or your stupid death cult, that destroys other peoples countries."

Are any of these things UNTRUE?
I believe slavery is accepted in 7 of 11 Muslim countries (correct me if I'm wrong)
And we can debate all the other facts I said if you want.

Have I said anything untrue;
Whilst also taking into account that whick 'Iftikhar' himself proposed.

I have said nothing that is not an extension of my true beliefs, therefore I should be covered by 18D.
If you think I've vilified ALL Muslims - and it's possible that I may have, though I'm not sure I explicitly crossed that line.
If I'd meant that I'd have simply said it since you suggest I'm that bad, would I not?

But that itself gets us to the real core of the issue.
We're supposed to be 'tolerant of all religions' are we not?
Why should we be tolerant of religions that themselves promote slavery, subjagation of women, and using fear and violence to push an authoritarian ideology, and wish for a future global caliphate'?
Why should we be tolerant of religions that practice things that go against common law?
Is it then wrong to associate said religions as being problematic to society?
And to oppose them on that basis?

And getting to the REAL CORE OF THE ISSUE is why I invite you AND OTHERS to speak your damn mind, and don't 'pussyfoot around' political correctness as you previous have with crypic responses; and I thank you for it.
Speak your mind and put your opinions to the test in "The Battle for Ideas"
That's how progress works and how better policies for civilisation are brought about.

I know what I said.