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ttbn,

Ah well, you can't change someone who does not
see an issue in their actions.

Enjoy your gruntlement.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 November 2017 9:46:58 AM
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You're noticed by what you say
and judged by what you do.
Having said that, I live in the middle of a Muslim community and I couldn't feel more comfortable or secure despite the fact that I don't follow the faith. I accept all and practice none.
I respect the fact that they feel somewhat alienated by their hosts but then all suffered the same fate at the different times of their arrival to Australia.
They do not understand the concept of catering to the lowest common denominator and they never will.
An ignorant man can never change his opinion as he would have to accept that his sum total to that moment is on a false premise. To do otherwise would mean a change had occurred.
Posted by ilmessaggio, Thursday, 23 November 2017 9:57:16 AM
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Dear ilmessaggio,

Well said.

I also have Muslim neighbours, Muslim doctors, and
Muslim nurses who care for my mother in her
nursing home. However on this forum I never underestimate
some people's ability to try to make me feel guilty
for their mistakes.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:04:00 AM
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Red neck hair Pauline says the burqa has no place in Parliament. Oh please vote in a Muslim mother with full hijab jihadi opinions who sits next to PHONP.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:16:15 AM
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Hey Foxy,
Don't take this the wrong way, but now you're doing to me what you're doing to ttbn,
- giving seemingly cryptic responses...

I want you to know that you are free to say what you really think to me.
I've made it clear that I have to objection to criticism when it's reasonable.
You don't have to give confusing cryptic responses; just say what you REALLY think.
I WANT the criticism.
I see it as constructive.
I invite it.
- If you think I'm wrong in something I've said then feel free to call me out and HUMILIATE me if you want to.
That's how I play, and I'm prepared to give and take both ways.

I look at the pro's and cons of everything.
I see the Australian cultural manner of 'putting sh*te on others' as being beneficial for society.
It helps people to keep on the right path in life when being made fun of for doing stupid things.

Its a kind of 'non-violent way of correcting bad habits'
If you're made fun of or humiliated for saying or doing something stupid then your going to be more likely to learn and think twice before you say or do said 'stupid thing' again.

And so I ask in regards to your comment -
"I realise that you can't change someone who doesn't see an issue in their actions."

- What exactly do you believe is wrong with my opinions / beliefs and why?
Tell me straight.

Free speech is like a muscle, use it or lose it.
That's what I believe, and this is why I said the things I did.

- And at least I have the conviction in my beliefs to explain why I think and say the things I do.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:35:40 AM
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I am conflicted in so many ways over this topic.
In one hand Australia has never had a majority of 'Australians' from the day we began shipping convicts. (well close enough) We are the only country with such a large mix of different nationalities. We are all from immigrant stocks. On the other hand we happen to be a christian majority. Having said this, I have lived in a Muslim country and being the 'outsider' I co-existed amongst the locals, ensuring I did not mock any of their beliefs and customs. I may have queried from time to time and even found some incomprehensible at other times, but still respected the fact that this was their country and things were the way they had been for centuries. I have mentioned before that I am not a religious man and that religious people lack self confidence and are in my view easily led. We are confronted with stories of symbols of Christianity being removed from schools. Generally making changes to our years of traditions to, all of a sudden, accommodate Muslims, is completely un-acceptable. Not because they are Muslims but because the demand was made and then acted upon. This has never happened at the hand of any other religion, and if it has, it should not have. I can assure you if a Christian approached anyone in a Muslim country to remove anything to do with worshiping Mohamed they would more than likely be deported, not before everyone had a good laugh and God knows what else. I am worried that these moronic polys are selling us out. I believe, you do your homework before you migrate and not just cherry pick the bits you like, then force your changes on the country by preaching guilt and entitlement once you are here.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:16:25 AM
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