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Do you like cakes? Always?

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Excellent response, Foxy, Thanks!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:30:36 PM
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Toni,

Nice ducking there!
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 7:51:31 AM
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In the cake case in the US, the baker knew the gay couple as they were regular customers and he had never refused to sell goods to them.
However, when they asked for a wedding cake he refused, saying he couldn't reconcile his religious beliefs with gay marriage. He offered to find another baker who would be willing to bake the cake for them. They refused, he refused, so the matter went to court and the baker received a large fine.
Two issues here. Firstly, he had never refused to sell to them before so he wasn't guilty of refusing service on the grounds of sexual orientation. What he refused to do was provide goods for a ceremony he didn't agree with.
Secondly, the gay couple were being deliberately malicious and vindictive in trying to force him to dishonour his own beliefs, when apparently there were multiple other bAkers nearby who would have made the cake for them.
As has been said, who would want anything negative to spoil their wedding day and marriage. Certainly you wouldnt want illwishes from people you had tormented.
The free market would easily sort this out if left alone. Let gay couples use the majority of businesses who are happy to provide for them and leave religious and conscientious objectors alone.
Posted by Big Nana, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:51:15 AM
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Dear Big Nana,

Hopefully the Dean Smith Bill with all of its
amendments will satisfy everybody and be fair
and equitable to all. It's up to our
Parliamentarians now to sort this out. Time they
did their job.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:58:07 AM
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There should be nothing to sort out.

It is not the job of parliament or the legal system to force anyone to work for anyone they don't want to. That is slavery.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 1:12:15 PM
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"he couldn't reconcile his religious beliefs with gay marriage. "
bad move . If one of them proposed marriage to the baker what could he say ?
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 1:14:49 PM
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