Fatuous Foxy is now an expert on religion. Is there no end to this woman's nonsense! She needs to get out of her computer room more often. Get hubby to drive her around more in the bogan- bus, the old Statesman.

ttbn,

I rather suspect that you lied when you told us
that your chosen initials for
this forum (TTBN)
stood for - "Try To Be Nice".

Because judging from the nasty consistency displayed in
your posts - TTBN actually stand for -
"Try To Be Nasty".

And that is something that you're good at.

Do yourself a favour and ignore anyone who tells you to
be yourself.
Bad idea in your case.

Op2,

I'll bet you read your own posts.

Dear OP2,

Modern people are focussed on improving the human condition
on earth, even if they hesitate to claim they can produce
"heaven on earth". Their attitude sits in direct contrast
to the vision of the fundamentalists. I cannot state it
strongly enough: religious fundamentalism - where belief
is in the literal word of the Bible, the Koran or the Torah,
as the rule book for how to live and die - is the arch enemy
of achieving the good sustainable life. Why? If the good life
in another (mythical) world, heaven, is what you seek (and
for some fundamentalists you want to get there as soon as
possible) what you do to earth today and what you do to
your fellow human beings does not matter. In fact, if
Armageddon is a necessary precursor to the second coming (and
utopia in heaven) you will destroy and kill to accelerate your
embrace to God in the hereafter. Very, very, sad. And
pathologically sick.

It is this particular view that allowed the murderers of Sept.
11th 2001 to fly those planes into the Twin Towers.
We also have Christian "end-timers" who would bring on Armageddon today if they could.

Today's fundamentalists were taught to be bad people, yet
believe they are good people - God's chosen ones, whether Jew,
Christian or Muslim. And they believe that you can't be
good - and should be put to death - if you are not one of the
chosen few.

That is the sort of mentality that lies behind many of the
problems that we are faced with in this modern world of ours.

foxy, in some commentors defense, and remember I am not religious, I must pick you up on a couple of issues. Firstly I don't think people of today would dare follow the bible or any other doctrine, to letter. Some passages just do not 'fit in' today. Although I would retain the one where a person who either rapes and or attacks an old woman. I believe I am for the stoning to death of the individual and there are a few more things I would retain that punishment for. I don't think there are people actively engaged in trying to get to 'heaven' by killing themselves other than the fools who believe in Allah! These people have been 'sucked in' and succumbed to the predications of their cult leader or handler. They are mentally weak and are wanting. We cannot use these people as examples of anything. Certainly not typical religious followers.

Dear ALTRAV,

I was referring to fundamentalists and extremists and they exist
in all religions.