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Paul, if you recall, I did go to the trouble of confirming info on the 'queer bashing' upsurge recently. I warned of this happening and more frequently and aggressively than in the past. How was my warning received? With abuse and put downs. If you recall, I said keep looking over your shoulder'. The stupid YES idiots, instead of thanking me for warning them they again attack me. Well guess what? You and your mates can chew on this. The West Australian, newspaper, Page 5, Friday the 17 of November, 2017, Under the heading 'Gay men lured on app for sex then bashed'. So remember if I say something and it's not quite right, tell me straight away, and I will be greatful. But if I say something don't just come back with denials and false challenges simply because you don't like what I said. You're welcome!

Hi Pal,

My mum would have laughed at that: me, an apologist for the Catholics. Mind you, she went to a St Joey's in Glebe. I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, but I suppose it shows merely that you've run out of ideas.

Understandable enough: I was pondering how the Gramscians were ever going to square their short-term with their long-term strategies: to disrupt social institutions and eventually all of society, but to do it stealthily, bit by bit, piece by piece, institution by institution. So it's the boiling frog approach in relation to this issue, rather than the full-on assault as in relation to other issues ?

Or maybe both simultaneously: white-ant social institutions, sure, but also launch violent attacks on dissidents at the same time. I wonder what Marx would have thought, of smashing society willy-nilly the Gramscian way, AND use (so far, mild) forms of terrorism like some more right-wing Anarchists do, shouting down speakers with different opinions, attacking individuals, etc.

Maybe Hayek was onto something: that there isn't a continuum in political thought and action from Right to Left, but a polygon, a many-sided and many-nodal scheme: so alliances between unlikely adversaries occur - such as the co-operation in the early thirties between the extreme Right and the Communist Party her to 'smash' Labor Party rallies - perhaps Anarchists are moving in that way towards Fascism, perhaps there isn't much difference between them already.

All I can advise, Paul, is: don't over-play your hand.

Joe

Poor 'Sister Mary', Catholic and dumb about Catholic theology and Irish and dumb about Irish history.

The freedom the religions should insist on from themselves should be...learn the truth and tell the truth for a change!

The question of what happens now, seeing there has been a massive reversal in society due to common sense and common decency and a fair go – The no voters are the minority and have lost totally. God apparently answered the prayers of believers by saying – You are wrong!...lol

However, there are some great lessons in this especially for the blindly religious.

Those who voted no because of the two verses that Moses lied about and wrote are simply unknowing and failed Jesus completely. Do you want proof?

Moses simply can't be believed on anything! He put the words “The Lord said”, in front of the most obscene instructions to justify his psychopathic ways and you guys are still falling for it...lol Pathetically sad really, and anti God! Your whole religion is actually anti-God because of the verses you ignore! rofl

Moses was the one who made up the flood story where EVERY INNOCENT BABY, and, EVERY INNOCENT CHILD on the planet was supposedly drowned by God... MOSES LIED! The flood never happened and your belief is an absolute insult to God! You may be in for a very bad judgement day! rofl

The Passover never happened either! MOSES LIED! Yet many believers and churches celebrate this lie every year! How obscene? You insult God by believing and celebrating God got into a pecker fight with the Pharaoh resulting in God murdering ALL THE FIRSTBORN of Egypt. I wonder how God feels about you believing this lie against him and celebrating such a horrid story? rofl

MOSES LIED by saying God told him to put dust from the tabernacle floor into the water of women to test their fidelity. He uses witchcraft here and doesn't care if the woman is with child and the baby aborts. No biggy to a psychopath like Moses, and apparently no biggy to you believers either! Why do you so easily believe such horrid lies from Moses against God?...Numbers 5:11-22 https://www.blueletterbible.org/niv/num/5/11/s_122011

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MOSES LIED when he claimed God ordered him to cut the heads off the vanquished! You guys must believe it...So much for you loving God! And you claim the Bible is God's word?...lmao

Numbers 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, TAKE ALL THE HEADS OF THE PEOPLE, and hang them up before the LORD in the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

So you really believe God ordered these crimes?

You don't really believe Jesus you just say you do... So you are lying to us...aren't you?

LOOK! Moses is caught out again!

Jesus said...John 6:46 NOT THAT ANY MAN HATH SEEN THE FATHER, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

and

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. YE HAVE NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME, NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE.

And the Bible says....John 1:18 NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

But Moses contradicts Jesus here - So who do you really believe? Jesus or Moses! Feel free to choose...lmao

Moses said...Exodus 24:9-11 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: AND THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Oh if you believe Jesus, Moses also lied about seeing and/or hearing God in these verses...Exodus 6:2-3 and Numbers 12:6-8 and Moses lied about Abraham hearing God in Genesis 17:1 and Genesis 18:1 … so you guys have some real problems!

SO the verses where Moses commences the oppression of homosexuals claiming to speak for God just can't be trusted at all! So ask yourselves - what is the real motivating factor for your ongoing oppression of homosexuals and their freedoms? Look into your hearts now....come on, you still have a heart don't you?...lmao

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Because you guys didn't know these things or turned a blind eye to them, Moses caused you to defy Jesus in so many ways.

You judge gays and others, you fail to do to others as you would have them do to you, you continually cast stones at them and others... But worse than all those defiances of Jesus... You oppress people who are different still! Jesus was silent on homosexuality but you guys aren't!

By blindly believing Moses and the Bible you therefore WRONGLY believe God approved of this psychopath Moses and you are breaking several of the 10 commandments...

You break.

Commandment 2 ... You shall not make idols. - You have made the Bible your idol!

Commandment 3... You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. - As shown above you believe the most horrid lies against God.

Can you really claim to love God when you believe and promote horrid lies against God?

Matthew 22:37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'

If a person gets all these things wrong and does all these things against Jesus' teachings, should they really call themselves, good, Godly or a Christian?

As a result of the SSM debate and proper analysis of your religious books, maybe, just maybe, some people might wake up, or, perhaps I am just being too optimistic...lol

Aint proper Bible study fun? You should all try it one day...lmao

Please note it is not me who proves your wrong... It is the religious books you made your idols... :)

Yep people who still follow the Abrahamic goat herder religions sure have a lot to answer for

So how will you all go come judgement day when you have defied Jesus continually.

But Jesus... I defied your teachimgs and oppressed people in your name...lmao That'll go down well! :)