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America; too many guns - far too many massacres: What can they do about it?

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As usual, Paul, you try and cloud the issue.

"Jean Casarez on a nine-year-old girl who accidentally killed her gun instructor while shooting an Uzi sub-machine gun"

No one in Australia would be teaching anyone using an Uzi sub-machine gun as they are forbidden weapons. well, not to the army, some police and the criminals.

Whoops!! My mistake they are forbidden to criminals as well, but the gun laws don't seem to work on crims.

Learners on SSAA rifle ranges are taught using single shot rifles or repeaters that are single loaded and they are only loaded when facing safely down the range and the instruction is one on one, by qualified people.

So logical reason why 10 year olds should not be taught firearms safety?

Don't let the word 'logic' frighten you!!

While you are at grips with the concept of logic, do tell us all how the Greens are tackling the "..... These new murderous weapons must be prevented from falling into the hands of crazed gunnies! "

What's the procedure going to be, Paul, as there is no way to prohibit the purchase of the electrical components.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 19 October 2017 8:26:03 AM
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Proposed by whom Issy? The crazed gunnie brigade. And why 10, what is the significance of the age 10? Is it your favorite number or something, why not 9, or even 5. Why stop at guns, why not include grenades and rocket launchers as well, and don't forget the perfectly safe land mines, the evidence shows no one is killed in Australia by land mines. Can include Uzis, and all the other automatic guns as well, just like the way the gunnies talking heads are agitating for this ridiculous nonsense, they could agitate to include any weapon you like. After all, the real agenda of the gun lobby when it comes to gun control is, no gun control at all.

Gives us your reasons why it is a good idea. Don't ask me to make a case for why its not?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 October 2017 9:08:02 AM
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Paul,

Obviously, you didn't look up 'logic' before you posted.

Teaching ten year olds gun safety is self-explanatory, safety.

What is your logical objection to teaching gun safety?

Do you want more young people who may find a gun to be hurt, thus helping your Green's agenda?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 19 October 2017 9:55:05 AM
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Issy, it is only the thin edge of the wedge. Within the guise of so called "teaching gun safety" the crazed gunnies are looking to brainwash children into accepting guns, and their ownership, and use, as being a normal part of society. We are a wake up to your ploy.

NO TEACHING BABIES TO USE GUNS!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:58:37 AM
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Paul,

".... are looking to brainwash children into accepting guns, and their ownership, and use, as being a normal part of society"

and what are the Greens doing about violent video games in which guns, fully automatic ones at that, are such a vital part?
and the violent use of guns in films and TV as 'entertainment'?

Still, you've given no logical reason to stop teaching children gun safety.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 19 October 2017 11:11:54 AM
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I'm as concerned as the rest of you but shying away from guns is NOT the answer. I keep saying, guns are not the issue here. OK, let me be the devils advocate for a minute. Let's say we succeed in removing EVERY gun, the lot, sporting, farming, the lot. Think about it. I'm pissed off about something or someone, I can't get a gun, no wait, yes I can. I still have a choice. Just picking a couple out of the bag. One is a 'spear' gun, the other, (and this is a beauty) a 'nail' gun. Got you thinking now haven't I? Then we say the spear gun gets vilified so the law decides it too has to go. Which leaves us with the nail gun. Let me say it now, you will NEVER get nail guns outlawed. FYI nail guns have to go through the same licensing rigors as the real ones. They function exactly the same as a 'real' gun. They are more compact and mobile. I've said it before I am indifferent towards guns and yes I have had guns for over 50 years. They don't rule my life, hell I never give them a thought. So ease up on the guns, go hard on the criminals, because the guns aren't the problem, people are.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 19 October 2017 11:40:20 AM
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