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America; too many guns - far too many massacres: What can they do about it?

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//Fully automatic muskets existed before 1791 as did machine guns.//

Oh all right then, let them have Puckle guns as well. But they're only allowed to use the square bullets.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 11:17:44 PM
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Issy, I have checked, and again you are wrong. At no time have the Greens voted against any gun control legislation in NSW. The only party to consistently oppose gun control in this state is the Shooters and Hooters. led by that pair of talking heads, the 'Two Bobs'.

Again I ask, since the Las Vegas massacre has the Australian chapter of the NRA had any communication with the high command in America, as to how to manage damage control over the outrage? You seem to be doing your very best.

What is your view on instigating annual psychiatric assessments of gunnies in Australia. Particularly those Stephen Paddock types who are hoarding mega cache's of weapons, some have several hundred. Such people cannot be considered mentally stable. Agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 3:42:10 AM
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Paul,

Playing with words won't get you off the hook.
The Greens opposed stiffer penalties for criminal use of firearms thus refusing to strengthen the gun laws.

Sure some people have a lot of guns, I have seen some big collections.
Many collectors have all of their firearms registered, even though they don't need to legally but having them registered helps with insurance.
Then there are all those registered firearms which are only part of a firearm, will never be a full firearm, can't by any stretch of the imagination be fired and are less dangerous than a house brick.

Toni,

Full marks on the Puckle!
I was thinking of the Roman Candle type gun which is fully automatic.
The oldest revolver in the world may have been produced as early as 1597, and was owned by Norwegian general George von Reichwein.
Repeating magazine fed pistols date from the 1600s, so most of the concepts are already there by the 1790s
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 8:23:45 AM
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Julian,

"Is Mise assures us: "The American Government already does ban certain arms from civilian use, notably machine guns and all other arms capable of automatic fire, including 'assault' rifles."

Oh, they are S T R I C T, aren't they. They still ban Gatling guns and Sherman tanks, too. For now."

They are strict, but Gatling guns are not banned as, despite being the first really successful machine gun, they are not legally machine guns and can be owned by civilians both in the USA and here in Australia; the same goes for Sherman (or any other) tanks.

Don't let your tongue, or as here, your typing finger, do your thinking.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 8:52:21 AM
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Issy, the lesson about all those monster murder weapons is very interesting. However you did not comment about the need for annual psychiatric assessments of crazed gunnies, it could be a good idea. Nor did you give anything away about your secret communications with the North American high command. what's going on there?

Can't you own a Sherman tank? Not even for hunting varmints? What if the neighbours get stroppy, how do you straighten them out? I say point the old Sherman through their lounge room window and down their cake hole, that will soon shut them up! Agree

BTW; Norwegian General George von Reichweinm didn't he go mad, and shoot himself several times?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:18:08 AM
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As long as a citizen is a fit and proper person I cannot see any logical reason why s/he shouldn't be allowed to own any legal firearm and any number of them. For the last mentioned, possession above a certain number brings in much more severe safe storage requirements.

What risk is there is a person owning a number of .22 calibre and for no better reason than 'just because'? S/he can only use one at a time anyhow.

This is where the headline hunting Greens are clueless and blindly follow the free buckets of propaganda, full of lies, put out by billionaire currency dealer Soros' outfit.

Just as a reminder, of course Soros and his billionaire mates would very much prefer that the media chase after the political sham of 'gun control' (in lieu of robust, effective regulation based on evidence/risk) rather than look at why those African American youths join drug-trafficking gangs early and are used as enforcers, killing others like themselves to win gang membership and advancement. Cycles of poverty and cycles of gang membership and violent deaths.

It really wouldn't do to have headlines about the top few percent taking all while everyone else budgets to live (or commits crime to do so).
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:21:37 AM
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