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Mass Murder In America

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Toni,

"But just because the bit about silencers is of little relevance, it does not follow that her comments about putting politics aside, standing up to the NRA, and working together to stop this again are irrelevant or invalid."

That's not why she was criticized in the Us but because of her ignorance and indecent haste in trying to score a political point out of the tragedy.
It is also irrelevant what sort of firearms he had or the number, given his vantage point and the density of the crowd the same carnage could have been achieved with a single shot rifle or shotgun.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:10:44 AM
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according to this crazy man's brother the killer had no religion (atheist/secularist) or ideology. Of course we have been told by the god deniers that watching porn and violence privately does not affect others. I suspect this is another case among thousands of others where that ideology again proven fake.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:20:14 AM
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ttbn, put up or shut up, where have I ever said "I hate America". I have been there and I found the people, friendly and polite in general, as I have found with people wherever I have traveled. You seem to have an uncaring attitude towards others with the "I couldn't care less about the regular gun massacres in America", that's you in a nutshell. Its not my attitude, but I don't hate you for being that way, its something you have to live with, not me.

As a pacifists I disagree with governments, including my own, whenever they act violently towards others.
Your; "our alliance with it (ANZUS Treaty), its not something I agree with. believing Australia would be better served as a non aligned nation. You most likely have a different opinion on that as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:29:58 AM
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Is Mise,

Clearly you haven't seen the footage of the massacre then.

<<I doubt that he had any automatic weapons ...>>

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-02/las-vegas-shooting-captured-on-video-by-witnesses/9008870

Given the rate of fire and the sheer number of bullets fired into the crowd, I don't see how 500 being injured is "ludicrous" at all.

It sounds to me like you are desperately trying to downplay the role of the guns in any way you can.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:17:56 AM
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I have to agree with Paul1405 on this one, I think we'd be better off non-aligned and making decisions based on our own interests rather than being part of the globalist establishment.
Of course one must assume that the second we broke the leash we'd be a target of the globalist establishment, they'd try twice as hard to ferment civil unrest and pull us back in line, or install a leader that was more preferable to them.

At the end of the day America has a history of showing contempt for democracy rather than supporting it.
They support it only when it suits their geopolitical agenda of installing someone preferable.

They aren't fit to be global hegemon.

I don't like gang mentality of manipulating and undermining other nations, in fact I vehemently oppose it.

'The Grand Chessboard' can go and get stuffed.
All I care about is what's best for our country and it's citizens.
And I say that with the personal opinion that the long term 'Aussies' get more of a say and new imports empowered by foreign philanthropists money to become progressive neo-liberal fascists, and yell and scream and create civil unrest with their faces covered getting less of a say.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:25:02 AM
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Hey Is Mise,
He definitely had automatic weapons, didn't you hear the gunfire?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:29:27 AM
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