//You could have at least posted what she said.//

It was this:

"We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again."

So you can see why that would upset Is Mise. He seems to think that the sun shines out of the NRA's arse.

Philip S,

Her idiot remarks were on the news channels, but in essence what she said was that it would have been worse if the gunman had had silencers, shewing that she was completely ignorant of the effect that silencers have on high velocity rounds.
She was attempting to score points off the fact that the NRA has been lobbying to have the laws on silencers/suppressors relaxed.

Toni,

You left a bit out, I wonder why?

"Hillary Clinton took heat Monday for issuing what critics called an “ignorant” and “irrelevant” statement going after the NRA and silencers in the hours after the Las Vegas mass shooting.
As details were still emerging about the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history – which killed at least 58 people – the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee took to Twitter to imagine how much deadlier the massacre might have been if silencers had been used."

Her quoted words:

“The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots. Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get,” she tweeted, adding: “Our grief isn't enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-clinton-blasts-nra-fellow-dems-renew-call-for-gun-control-after-attack.htm

Must give you points, though, for using 'arse'
rather than the euphemistic 'ass'.

Well I'd like to share my 2 cents on this, but it's not in regards to guns.
I'd like to have a gripe about the news;
- In 2017 News isn't news, it's just; well.. 'something pretending to be something that it's not'.
Like if you ordered a nice steak or roast meal, and they came back with a plate of chum, served in the can-shape straight from the can.

I read this article just before dated this evening.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/how-las-vegas-killer-brought-22-guns-and-10000-bullets-into-a-hotel-20171002-gyt3d5.html

* "More than 24 hours after the shooting, authorities still had no indication of a motive."

Why is that?
Or should I say 'In 2017' why is that?
How can they be so incompetent and not know anything?

Why did we not see police shoulder-cam footage of the FBI HRT entering the hotel room, or footage of the active shooter?
Why don't we see Hotel camera footage of what he was doing in the lead-up to the event?
Why don't we have a complete profile of the 2 people in question from their public facebook profiles, their online browsing habits?
Why don't we know who these people were affiliated with - I've heard reports there was ANTIFA documentation all over the shooters room, but since we don't know for sure, it's conjecture and we all end up arguing over unproven facts that we should be given.
Why don't we know who their friends (including online) and family were and why have the media not gone and paid for these peoples inside stories?
Why does it take so long to get vital information such as a toxicology report, to know what drugs were in his system, and whether he was acting in a manner that may have been the side effects of prescription/illegal drugs, whether he had questionable psychological history, financial or relationship troubles or radical (left or right) ideology?

Why in 2017 in the age of technology do we know so little when something like this happens?
Why in 2017 do we not know absolutely everything already?

I'm calling 'incompetence', it's not news, it's chum.

To Armchair Critic. What you ask for takes time and man hours. Especially given the high numbers of victims and deaths, there are other concerns that are being dealt with at the same time as the investigation. 24 hours is not that much time.

To anyone else. If any of you have a faith or a relationship with God. Please pray for the US. For Las Vegas. And for the world as a whole. We live in a broken and breaking world. Especially after events like this please show your concern and give your prayers for the people who need them.

Issy, you always try to deflect the argument with a "technical" response. The only thing we all need to know about guns is, "GUNS KILL". I am not ashamed to admit if I had my way I would remove every gun off the planet.
Obviously the United States has very serious gun issues, only a fool would argue otherwise. What concerns me, is what we have control over in our own country, and that is our response to guns. Fortunately we are not in the same dire position as the US, and we don't want to be, but we have those within, Issy you are one of them, who believe that we are too tough on guns and gun owners, and laws should be relaxed, I would argue we are not tough enough. You have put up many discussions on guns, and others and I have argued the point with you that robust gun laws are an absolute necessity.
Shocking as it is, what good Las Vegas tells us is we can't afford to be complacent, we can't afford to give way to vested interest within, that want relaxation of gun control. What we should do is review our own position and take the necessary steps to make it tougher on guns, both legal and illegal, Howard did it after Port Arthur, to the best of his ability, the warning signs have returned, and its time to do it again. Issy you may not like that, you may feel as an honest gun owner, you are being victimised in some way. So be it.