Paul,

"Totally agree with you Issy; "Think of it, a country without guns, I'm all for it"

Ah! but you are itching to hit me with the "who draws first routine". We gotta have de guns, because they gotta de guns! Right? That is not my concern, others can argue that point. But I say, lets just do it!"

I was going to ask you how we would disarm the criminals.

Issy, the Federal Governments nation gun amnesty which you claimed was unnecessary, and would be a complete failure, has been a huge success. To date some 51,000 illegal guns have been handed in. In Queensland alone 16,000 deadly weapons have been removed from the streets.

From ABC news;

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said it was vitally important Australia maintained its strict gun controls, to avoid tragedies like the Las Vegas massacre in which 59 people, including the gunman, died.

"The killer had a collection of semi-automatic weapons which a person in [the gunman's] position would simply not be able to acquire in Australia," Mr Turnbull told media in Canberra.

"We have strict gun control laws but we don't take anything for granted."

He said the latest amnesty had "succeeded in keeping Australians safe".

"We are also seeking to increase penalties for gun traffickers including with mandatory minimum sentences," Mr Turnbull said.

Dear Paul,

Well argued, however I think that what Is Mise
wanted to hear was that "the only way to stop
a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

But we'll see.

Paul,

"To date some 51,000 illegal guns have been handed in. In Queensland alone 16,000 deadly weapons have been removed from the streets. "

Including a high proportion of rusty old air guns.

The Government claims that there are 250,000 illegal firearms in the country, other sources claim 600,000; given these figures 51,000 (inclusive of rusty old air guns) is hardly a resounding success.

It will be interesting when the Government releases the number of different types of firearms that the amnesty turned up, (some hope!!).

It is misleading to say that 51,000 guns have been handed in as many of the guns that came to light were registered to their owners who took up that option.

""We are also seeking to increase penalties for gun traffickers including with mandatory minimum sentences," Mr Turnbull said"

I agree but, as in the past, the Greens will undoubtedly oppose tougher sentences on such criminals.

Foxy,

"....the only way to stop
a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

So, how does one stop a bad guy with a gun?

//So, how does one stop a bad guy with a gun?//

With a laser. Pew pew!

Nah, just kidding. But tasers are pretty good these days. Also, armored exoskeletons. They're not here yet but it won't be long; certainly a more feasible prospect than hand-held laser weapons.