It just shows how really stupid Greens (and possibly other politicians, who should now all be vetted) are when they don't at least take a glance at the Constitution that they will upholding.

And, sorry George Williams, the Constitution will never be changed to accept dual citizens. Australia is still Australia, despite ridiculous anti-Australian multiculturalism.

As we are here, on OLO, by choice, we should respect the OLO rules.

In contrast, the Australian constitution is being forced on anyone who happens to be born or live in this continent - even using violence when necessary.

There is no justification for respecting laws that were made by others without our consent. On the contrary - it is virtuous to break such laws (provided that nobody innocent is hurt as a result).

Section 44 of the Australian constitution intends to prevent those who have no allegiance to this concept of "Australia", from trying to abolish and overthrow it from within - regardless of the fact that this concept was imposed on them from without. This in principle is no different to Saudi women being subjected from birth to the rule of men and not even allowed to vote and represent themselves against it.

Graham, as far as I am aware the CFMEU or Greenpeace are not affiliated with The Greens. I would think without evidence CFMEU members would by and large vote Labor. Greenpeace members would, I suspect predominately vote Green. That begs the question are all Greenpeace members law breakers?

Again an unsubstantiated claim "Their (Greens) protection of the CFMEU ought to be a scandal." Can you provide evidence of that protection?

Since you raised the CFMEU, I am a supporter of the ideals of unionism, the CFMEU is a union, so therefore in broad terms I support the CFMEU, Do I support all the actions, by all the members of the CFMEU. No, many members of The Greens would agree. We can always apply the broad brush whenever it suits us.

1983 is a long time ago, but I assume it was the Liberal Party. Just to clear that point up. A friend on mine, a young Liberal Party member, ran at the last local government elections as an Independent, with the parties blessing, but unfortunately no cash. I did help him by getting him Greens preferences, which was 16% of the vote. He missed out narrowly to Labor, but if he runs again I think he will win a seat on council. A good starting point for a political career, if he's got what it takes. He is of Greek origin, better check his citizenship.

It only takes a few loudly spoken persons to convince the public they have an agenda to bring beneficial change to society. They capture enough votes to get into office. However they often have a hidden or particular agenda in their purpose in taking office; that is to bring about change and laws that are not in the interest of all the community. That is the case with one issue Parties.

Persons born under laws that clearly conflict with our values must clearly demonstrate they have denounced their allegiance to those conflicting values. We have persons in our society that believe in polygamy, that the wives and children are the property of the husband; and child brides they see as normal practise.

Paul, the Greens opposed the commission of inquiry into the unions, which was most specifically aimed at the CFMEU, plus the legislation flowing from it, and they receive donations from the CFMEU. It is not an issue of who CFMEU members vote for, but rather whether the Greens have supported the CFMEU, and clearly they have.

And the Greens support the actions of Greenpeace, and other, activists. I'll instance Sea Shepherd, for one.

Generally, when facts are this widely known, one doesn't have to "substantiate" them.

Just as my political affiliations are widely known, and generally put down in my articles and commentary as a necessary part of transparency. Before you start going down that track perhaps you might tell us who you are, and which parties you've belonged to over the years.

Graham, you have total control of this website, and have voluntarily, and freely given your "details", did anyone ever demand you "tell us us who you are" I do not believe so, other than for personal security reason, I would be happy to do so. I do not hide the fact I am a member of the Greens, and at one time the ALP. Several of your forum readers know who I am, as I have told others to "have a read".