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Incompetence and citizenship

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leoj,

I totally disagree.

And you are wrong.

It is not the ABC that holds the governments to account.
What it does is provide a conduit for direct public
participation in that process and most thinking people
would consider that to be important in a democracy.

Worth 14 cents a day.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 28 July 2017 12:45:59 PM
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After his incessant rants about the two Greens senators, leoj has gone awfully quiet when it comes to one of his own, the One Nation nong from Queensland Malcolm Roberts. Keyboard not working leoj?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 28 July 2017 10:38:15 PM
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Section 44 of the Australian constitution disqualifies from sitting in either the House of Representatives or the Senate;
Any person who: (i)  is under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power.

Australia has 5 Jewish members of the Australian Parliament from both sides of politics. They certainly have the 'right of return' to Israel. My question is does this bring them under the definition of being “entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power.”?

If not why not?

If so then what would they need to do to properly renounce that right?

We hear news reports of young Australians going and spending time in the IDF forces before returning to Australia. This also occurs with Australians serving in the Greek forces. What would each need to do if they ever wished to later serve in the Australian Federal Parliament?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:20:26 PM
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SR,

While most left whingers are for some unknown reason anti-Semitic, I am yet to fathom why reason eludes them. As the rights to citizenship etc only manifest once a person of Jewish heritage actually relocates to Israel.

From what I recall Malaysia has an automatic right of entrance to Muslims. Does this make Muslims Malaysian citizens?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 29 July 2017 8:03:26 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Reason eludes a lot of people not just one
specific group, unfortunately.

And raising questions regarding Israel does
not constitute anti-Semitism. That's a standard
line that's been used so many times. As author
Antony Loewenstein can confirm.

Regarding Muslims from Malaysia. You might need
to do some research on that question. I think
it's not straight forward.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 July 2017 9:05:13 PM
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Foxy,

Targeting 5 MPs purely because they are Jewish is not questioning Israel.

Notably, SR chose one particular faith, whereas other faiths such as Muslims tend to integrate far less, with far weaker allegiances to Australia.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 31 July 2017 2:58:53 PM
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