Yes, Aidan, I know a lot more about it than most here. I spent nearly half my life studying the Bible. I have justified the Bible’s endorsement of slavery many times before on OLO after being accused of knowing nothing about it, so I won’t bore people with it again. I’m sorry you missed it.

Then clearly you haven't studied it very well. Just because there are a few regulations about slavery in the OT doesn't mean Christianity endorses it.

yes Nana the apology Rudd made will seem to be a grain of salt compared with the apology to our grandchildren by pig headed leftist with their warped narrative that ignores the plain truth.

It is possible to both condemn the attack on innocent Muslims but recognise that its a foreseeable result of other attacks on innocents and the authority's seeming inability to effectively respond.

By the same token, it should be possible to condemn the attack (for example) on Bolt but recognise that it is a foreseeable result of the difference in world-views between Bolt et al and the antifa et al.

Europe is at a cross-roads. Almost 60 years ago Enoch Powell warned of the rivers of blood that would result from the growing alien (to western culture) immigration to the UK. While the Thames isn't quite running red, it doesn't take too much imagination to see the outbreak of urban tit-for-tat civil war in London, Manchester and other Muslim enclaves.

That it would be lamentable in the extreme is hardly reason to ignore the risks and causes.

As MArk Steyn noted over a decade ago, Europe has only two choices - allow its culture to quietly pass into history or neutralise the Muslim threat to that culture. It seems the various governments and a large minority of the population prefers the former primarily from a lack of will to do that latter.

But equally a plurality, if not a majority, of the population is becoming disenchanted with the incremental loss of their heritage and are demanding that the authorities put an end to it. And if the authorities don't do it, they themselves just might.

Europe has, over the past millennium, more than enough examples of what happens to minorities when their presences is deemed to be no longer acceptable.

It can go one of three ways: the 2500 yrs old European project is bought to a close, the governments of Europe decide to defend their heritage in as peaceful way as they can muster, the people decide to take the defense of home and hearth into their own hands.

Option three becomes more likely with each passing year. If so, it'll be bad for Europe and human rights, but it'll be a disaster for those innocent minorities in their midst.

Aidan,

No, Christianity nowadays (as far as I know, at least) does not endorse slavery. Similarly, not all Muslims think infidels should be killed (I was referring to doctrines, following from Is Mise).

<<Then clearly you haven't studied it very well.>>

Twenty years would be a long time to not study something very well, don't you think?

<<Just because there are a few regulations about slavery in the OT doesn't mean Christianity endorses it.>>

It goes beyond just a few regulations in the Old Testament. Jesus endorsed the old law in its entirety (every “jot and tittle”, to be exact (Matthew 5:18)). The New Testament tells slaves to obey their masters (Ephesians 6:5-8); which is, at best, unsound advice. Furthermore, in all those pages, and in all those books, the Christian god could not find any room to simply say that “slavery is wrong.”

These are issues for Christian doctrine that go well beyond just a few regulations in a collection of books that Christians want to appeal to or sever willy-nilly, depending on the mood.

It sounds to me like it is you who needs to study their Bible a little more closely. This is garden variety apologetics you're spouting here.

In other words A.J.PHILLIPS whatever we do, seemingly we're buggered! Your words do paint a very sombre picture of what might ultimately happen. The one thing I do know, if this attack on the Finsbury Park Mosque in London is some sort of payback by this severely troubled knucklehead who thinks he'll solve the problem of radicalization of young Muslims, by some tit for tat measure of violence - then we're confronting an even more gloomy future than I originally thought?

A.J.PHILLIPS - Do you have any sense as to where all this Muslim radicalization and expansion stuff might end up? To a declared War, between the West and Muslim nations; sporadic civil War; or relentless, unremitting incidences of indiscriminate and arbitrary terrorism, which surely cannot possibly remain constant? Personally I really don't know, what to think, other than definitely not another Ulster situation.