So what is to be done?

Europe's got its own series of problems created by feckless politicians over the last two generations. Their solutions are much more problematic and much less hopeful.

We (Australia) have lesser problems due to sensible decisions made since the 1980s but especially by Howard and Abbott. While we have our issues they aren't in the same league as Europe's.

If I had my way we'd:

1. Withdraw from all Middle-eastern entanglements - Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan. Not because they increase our danger - they don't. But because the west should leave these people to wallow in their own special brand of lunacy.
2. Ban all immigration from those nations which bred jihadists. That's pretty much the whole of the M-E and NorthAfrica. Exceptions to be made for non-Muslims from those regions eg Christians and Yazidi.
3. Begin the work of integrating those already here to our culture while guarding against and rooting jihadist sentiments. Don't ban the burqa and the like but do ban and enforce diligently bans on child marriage, FGM, polygamy etc.
4. In the same way as we make owning and/or actively seeking out child pornography a crime which carries legal penalties for life, make owning, distributing or actively seeking out jihadist literature a crime. Gaol followed by permanent entry on a 'potential-jihadi' register. Involvement with such literature plus having a gun and/or bomb-making equipment would result in life imprisonment if a citizen, deporting if not.

In the end recognise that there are some cultures and world-views that are incompatible with our own, that we made a terrible mistake by letting such people settle and set about rectifying those errors. A couple of generations should do it. By then we'll have forgotten how bad it was and we'll do it all over again.

Mhaze,

1. Yes.
2. Immigration from Commonwealth countries only
3. They will not integrate, so get rid of them.
4. 18c (incitement to hatred) should already be taking care of that, but it isn't.

Of course, nothing will happen while we have two Left-wing parties plus Greens.

mhaze,

Canberra needs to urgently review immigration policy anyhow and for all sorts of reasons, cost/benefit to the population being one.

It is incredible that the 'diversity' tail wags the immigration policy dog, for example.

Of course Australia, as a plum destination for migrants, should be discriminating in what skills, abilities, traditions and values it wishes to acquire. It isn't as some would have it, that it is solely about more bodies and any will do.

Above all, why has the federal government been taking unnecessary risks in taking migrants from jihadist countries, when there are many from more reliably safe countries who are being refused?

Why do successive federal governments imagine that they can just bring in thousands who will be lobbing in the large metropolitan cities and the 'feds' can wipe their hands clean, dumping the problems onto beleaguered local and State governments? They have been doing that for years and shrugging off responsibility.

It's really interesting when you think about it? A good strategy in assisting to defeat a foe, is to promote and then nurture confusion and speculation, to such a point where even different neighbourhoods have no idea what's verifiable or merely notional. Isn't it just the case with Islam and Muslims per se. They now enjoy a much higher profile within the Australia community, then they've ever had previously?

Mhaze said;
We (Australia) have lesser problems due to sensible decisions

Not really, the only reason we have lessor problems is because the
Muslim population is 2.2%, not the 10% + in Eurabia.
Our immediate problem is to stop the percentage from rising and then
reduce it. There is a slight indication of hope as organisations of
apostates are being formed in western countries. Something I read a
while back hinted at that there is one here.
Somehow we have to encourage such an organisation.
It has to be covert because of the risk associated with it, so how do
you publicise it ?
It needs to be perhaps an online organisation connected by the tor
network to make it untraceable. How do you vet members ?
For politically correct reasons the government would not host it.
Very difficult.

Dear Bazz,

Not a hope of wriggling out of this one I'm afraid.

I had asked;

“... how many support sanctions against the self appointed Muslim cleric Sheik Haron and his off-sider who sent the letters to the families of our soldiers killed in combat. I certainly do...”

Less than an hour later you shot in this answer;

“Oh yes csteele, the sheik has the right to say it and even write it.”

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5656&page=0#157249

You later reinforced your stance by saying;

"I don't believe anyone should be prosecuted for writing such a letter"

So when you ask me to apologise for saying this; “You bent over backward to defend the rights of Monis to send those terrible letters to the families of soldiers serving and dying overseas.” I hope you understand me saying 'Shove it!'

Perhaps if those letters had put him behind bars lives might have been saved, who can know. What we sure as hell didn't need was blokes like you sticking up for his right to write them. Now would be a good time to make a heartfelt apology for your lack of judgment and to acknowledge I was correct. If you were to do so I would be happy to give an undertaking that I will never raise it again.