Result of US Second Amendment brought in to enable uppity slaves and pesky redskins to be shot dead: 33500 Yanks shot dead by other Yanks each year.

Result of Howard gun laws in Australia: No repeat of Port Arthur massacre in the past 21 years.

Gun freaks calling for Yank style open slather in Australia are deadly enemies of the Australian people.

Julian,

"Result of Howard gun laws in Australia: No repeat of Port Arthur massacre in the past 21 years."

The Lindt Cafe happening was not a massacre, not because of Howard's laws but because of brave men with guns.

What will be your excuse when there is a massacre?

EmperorJulian, "Result of Howard gun laws in Australia: No repeat of Port Arthur massacre in the past 21 years"

That means absolutely nothing, zilch. You should be very wary indeed of the rogue who abuses numbers like that, others are.

But just to demonstrate how silly your belief is, outlaw bikies find it easy to import their gangsta guns and secondly, there are thousands of unregistered guns. So it can't be the guns now can it?

However, for as long as the politicians and media are prepared to sensationalise incidents, making multiple homicide the gold standard for idiots seeking international notoriety before all of those TV cameras, there is always the possibility, no matter how small. Ban accelerants?

What is needed and Australia has always had it and before the publicity seeking master politician John Howard, is:

- firearm licensing, a simple robust means of sorting the offenders from ordinary citizens; and,

- secondly the import regulations that were already in existence too, still exist and were being used to limit what can be brought in or not.

'Gun control' is anything but and as stated earlier, absolute political BS. But maybe you don't read earlier posts.

The Howard-inspired 'gun control' did diddley squat but waste police resources in mountainous paperwork, in watching over the shoulder of already certified safe citizens; and introduce a whole new spectrum of taxes. If truth has any part in this, it is right to say that it is all politics. Just think for a minute how many of those so-called illegal firearms were retired as stakes for garden taps or went to the tip years before Howard.

What we need to watch are drugs and especially the criminal gangs and ferals whose first take on any dispute is to reach for a weapon. Australian immigration seems destined, duty-bound, to import more of both, year after year. Remember Labor's Al Grassby as minister for immigration, 'father of multiculturalism' and matey with growers of certain 'herbs'?

Is Mise: You mean brave POLICE with guns. The right people be allowed to carry them. Not every Tom Dick and Harry as in the gunnies' US paradise where 33 1/2 thousand Yanks are shot dead by other Yanks each year.

leoj: " You should be very wary indeed of the rogue who abuses numbers like that"
Go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia#Murders_over_an_extended_period_of_time

Check after 1971, when wholesale gun murder of Aborigines was no longer the national sport, and identify gunshot massacres (multiple gun killings in the one incident) up to 1996 when Howard called a halt. Every few years another one culminating at Port Arthur.

The vast majority of Australians don't want our country reduced to a battleground like the USA. Only a handful of hobbyists who don't give a damn about the consequences of gun anarchy for everyone else.

EmperorJulian,

You implied that the Howard inspired 'gun control' ceased multiple homicides with guns. Statistically speaking you have no evidence to support that at all. The instances are random events and can be expected to be regressing to the mean. These are rare events in Australia and always were.

It is also ludicrous for other reasons. For instance that there remain thousands of semi-automatic firearms in the country. So why isn't there ongoing 'spates' (got to love the Soros 'gun control' activists' hysteria) of killings? As well, how come that Lindt Cafe, Sydney attack? So much for 'gun control'. 'Gun control' is a political scam.

Now, what about you read what I have written about the informed, risk-based, evidence-based REGULATION:

- of the person with a single licence (or two if pistols must be separately licensed for emotional reasons); and,

- of types of firearms through controls on importation.

Both existed before and after Howard. They are the only effective and robust controls. All else lies in policing (which includes Customs inspections) - which has been compromised by the 'gun control' emphasis that wrongly directs police resources against the compliant, licensed citizens.

How stupid is that?