Doog,

Yes, kangaroo grass, notoriously low in nutrients (at least the seed is, the leaf is good for cattle-raising) and growing everywhere in Australia naturally, even in Tasmania.

So if you turned your brain on, Doog, you might ask: WHY ? Why grow the bloody stuff deliberately if it's everywhere AND has no food value to humans ?

Also, for god's sake, think of

* the pre-requisite factors: who did the work, what tools, did they need fences, how many men to patrol nine+nine+?one?nine+?one?nine miles of fencing (say, anything from twenty miles to thirty six miles of fence, made how ?; - and

* the consequent factors: who harvested, where was the crop stored (nine miles of 'crop' would produce quite a few thousand tonnes to transport, so where was it stored and who by ?)

Do you ever actually think through a crazy yarn like this one ? Don't waste people's time.

Joe

Doog, I was amazed by that quote about storage of seed in houses and buildings, in secure vessels!
What houses? Bark lean to'S? Aboriginal people didn't have houses, they had temporary shelters that were vulnerable to all the weather and none of which survived very long.
Secure vessels? Built with what? There is absolutely no evidence of pottery or any other type of storage ability recorded anywhere that I have read.
I don't know where this is supposed to have occurred but I have read dozens of letters from settlers to Governor La Trobe in the early 1800s in Victoria and never any mention of any type of agriculture was mentioned. In fact, most reporting was about violence, both towards the settlers and other aboriginal tribes, including women and children.
Ive been living in the Kimberley for 50 years with aboriginal people and certainly never heard of anything beyond hunter gathering, even from my father in law who was raised in one of the most remote missions in the country, with all full blood people.
Joe has spent years studying the records of South Australia, perhaps he has heard where this farming occurred.

"..perhaps he has heard where this farming occurred"

It comes from the sloppy science popularised by feminists. Where the scientific basis of research is disregarded and only the indications that might build towards the already determined result are chosen to be publicised as 'evidence'.

Guvvy grant driven, where a virtue is being made of sloppy research methods and biased interpretations of the data, and even other researchers in the other 'hard' disciplines say nothing lest the academic institution lose favour and those grants.

The 'truth-telling' that the indigenous leaders and spokespeople propose is anything but. That is the joke. Queenslanders would be familiar with that concept [Fitzgerald Inquiry].

No, sorry Big Nana :)

I'm getting to think that there is usually a very high correlation between Loyalty (to a Great man [Stalin, Mao, Ho, Castro - yes, I plead guilty], or a religion, or to a Narrative) and a sort of imbecility, in which the most ridiculous notions are entertained, and the most idiotic fabrications are cooked up, to bolster the cherished Loyalty.

Hence, in spite of the British early on recognising the rights of Indigenous people here to hunt, fish, gather and generally forage, etc., this has to b denied, in order to bolster the notion that the British always rode roughshod over people's systems of land ownership, with a perverse and sadistic glee;

Hence, the fabrication of a 'Stolen generation': how many cases proven in court ? One. Say so in some places and you'll get torn limb from limb.

Any evidence of massacres ? Probably, if ever an investigation were to be carried out. Probably many. But not much actual evidence.

People being driven off their land ? Probably, but again ........ In any case, it would have been illegal, pastoralists would have lost their leases by breaching their lease conditions.

People being herded onto Missions? Perhaps in Queensland ? But certainly not in South Australia. Quite the reverse: even David Unaipon (the bloke on the $50 note) was thrown off Pt McLeay Mission for attempting to molest a young girl; being truly-ruly clever, he camped just a few feet outside the Mission boundary. And often, Missions were reluctant to take people. As well, people came and went, came and went, as they pleased, for ceremonies, and often in great numbers.

Starving people ? Not in SA, with its ration system. Yes, authorities realised quickly that able-bodied people could forage or work, so they were denied rations except during droughts: they were expected to implement their rights to

[TBC]

The Murray river is a living museum of aboriginal aquaculture, with stone fish traps. In the days when the Murray flow was seasonal. The river would recede into holes.
The whole occupation of the aboriginal was to be aware of where his next feed was coming from. So it would have made good sense that after rain you live at your river abode.
Your idea of stumbling around until you tripped over something that you can eat never happened.
kangaroo was plentiful but never hunted to extinction, It doesn't take much to know seeds turn into more seeds, you plant seeds and you know when those seeds will be ready for harvest, with a growing tribe food supply had to be expanded on a never ending cycle.
You take only what is necessary to sustain life for a while before moving on to your summer residence where you know the macadamia's and quandongs are in season.

doog,

Black Disney again.

It must have been a hellish life and especially so for women and children.

Hey, what about number one being a Treaty for aboriginal women? Seems like they need one. Those hundreds of millions, billions of Taxpayer dollars every year since the year dot don't seem to have improved their lot.

Meanwhile, Rosie Batty is talking about 'financial violence' against women.

Which ones matter?

The 'Treaty' is about politics. Politics is about power and money. Most of all, about those 'Oxford scholars', millions of them, the real 'Stolen', constantly being extracted from workers, often from young couples who put off children until too late because they cannot afford the family they worked and planned for, and because of (wait for it!) those taxes that are being wasted in their hundreds of millions each and every year.

The politics of Treaty and the Indigenous Industry need to be unpacked. There is far, far too much fast talking by motor-mouths, some of whom may not even be indigenous. But first, where have all of the dollars gone over all of those years and what about those ANAO reports? But 'they' are not saying and want more $ and even less accountability?