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ASIO: Intelligencers or Keystone Cops?

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Yes Joe, it was not a good time.
I think after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1918 the Jihadists
decided that they could not conquer Europe by normal military means
and have switched to immigration.
I did read one glint of optimism in that in Germany 30% of moslems
are dropping their religion.
It will be interesting to see if they stop replenishing the moslem
population, the percentage of apostates increases.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 2 June 2017 4:48:33 PM
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Hi Bazz,

Yes, live in hope :)

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 2 June 2017 6:55:40 PM
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Once again Deputy Prime Minister, Barnaby Joyce, has demonstrated his unsuitability for office by standing up for the gormless head of ASIO, Duncan Lewis.

At the same time, so did George Brandis and even Peter Dutton, show that they were also in the Lewis camp when it came to refugees and terrorism; but Joyce compounded his stupidity by saying:

“In every religion, you have a corner of evil people, a corner of ratbags who have taken it upon themselves to murder other people”.

Joyce of course didn't give any examples of Christians, Bhuddists, Hindus etc currently murdering other people in the name of their religion. That's because there are no such examples.

I would say that Joyce is that “ratbag” in a “corner”, and if we are relying on him, Lewis, Brandis and Dutton to carry out the most important and basic function of government – protecting Australia and Australians – then we are in big trouble!
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 4 June 2017 9:45:06 AM
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Hmmm a chorus of "Now don't you worry all is well".
Sounds like phone calls from the prime minister.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 4 June 2017 10:18:35 AM
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Another terrorist attack in London.

That's the first for this week; wonder if the attackers were Muslim?

Anyone offering odds?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 4 June 2017 12:05:57 PM
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Is Mise, what odds are you offering ?
Not many takers there.
I bet they wish they never let them in.

No one has an answer as to what can be done.
It seems to me that under the law we just have to stand and take it.
At some time there will be a widespread demand that "something" be done.
There is nothing that can be done without destroying our legal rights
and freedoms. We cannot declare a race or particular religious groups
non citizens without leaving ourselves open to repression by left
or right wing fascists.
We have already seen left wing attacks on freedom of speech.
Remember both communist and Nazi socialist left wingers have that in their history.

So what can we do ?
Who is "we" ? Any country that has been attacked or threatened.
My conclusion is that we have to accept that we are at war.
Granted it is a different type of war than what our laws have normally
accepted, but we must adapt to the changes or be overcome.
The only conclusion is to declare war on ISIL and Al Quiada and their affiliates.

Under a state of war people who are considered to be a risk can be
deported, their freedom restricted or to be interned indefinitely
for the duration. They can be repatriated to their national country.
If armed they can be shot on sight, all the rules of war apply.

This does seem to be the only path available.
I am sure the breeding hearts would have a fit at the very thought.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 4 June 2017 12:52:43 PM
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