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ASIO: Intelligencers or Keystone Cops?

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Apparently the Director General of ASIO,  Duncan Lewis, has made an ass of himself by denying to a Senate hearing that terrorism is not linked to Muslim immigration. (The Spectator online 29/5/17).

Writer, Andrew Urban, believes that Lewis is insulting all of us, including those in the Muslim community who assist ASIO, with his lying about the situation. He rightly also points out that the public is fed up Lewis's sort of “ dissembling on this topic”.

Adding to his bizarre bulldust, the Director General of of our key intelligence agency, replied to Senator Pauline Hanson's question as to whether or not he could confirm that the four terrorist attacks and the 12 foiled on Australian soil were committed by Muslims, he replied: “Certainly of the 12 thwarted attacks, one of those indeed involved a right-wing extremist, so, the answer is ‘no’, they have not always been carried out by Muslims.

So, only 11 of the 12 involved Muslims!

Can you believe that that response came from the Director General of ASIO?

For obvious reasons we can know little of the activities and capabilities of ASIO field operatives. But their boss gives us no reason to feel safe!

Who appoints such people?
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 29 May 2017 2:18:54 PM
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shows why Trump was right to speak of draining the swamp. Also shows why the West is stuffed, Progressive dogma tells us that a baby born with a penis could be a girl, that if I feel like it I might be Chinese that I am and that Christianity is the cause of all the evil on the planet. How on earth do you expect them to understand that when Islamist call Allahu Akbar before beheading or bombing that they are following the footsteps of Mohammed. You see they are the 'rational' ones and you are the racist one.
Posted by runner, Monday, 29 May 2017 2:48:57 PM
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Here’s a link to the article ttbn is referring to, since he is apparently incapable of posting links himself:

http://spectator.com.au/2017/05/asios-insult-to-the-intelligence-of-muslims

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ttbn,

Both you and the author of the Spectator article have misrepresented what was said by Duncan Lewis.

<<Duncan Lewis, has made an ass of himself by denying to a Senate hearing that terrorism is not linked to Muslim immigration.>>

Not quite.

All Lewis said was that there was no evidence of a connection between REFUGEES and terrorism. Stating that there is no evidence for a connection between two variables is not the same as denying that a connection exists at all.

The actual dialogue, for those interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw2h4BDJzvg

<<So, only 11 of the 12 involved Muslims!>>

No, as even you have quoted, he didn’t say “only”. You have added that in afterwards to make it sound like Lewis was attempting to downplay Muslim involvement. Lewis simply stated that one case was not related to Islam. The Spectator article you didn’t link to used the same rhetorical trick:

“Yes, Pauline, stop exaggerating. Only 11 of the 12 were carried out by Muslims.”

Hanson asked if all 12 thwarted terror attacks in Australia were planned by Muslims, and if not, then by whom? Lewis simply answered her question. What was he supposed to say?
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 29 May 2017 3:52:42 PM
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Simple fact very senior police and security services bosses are political appointments bearing that in mind with Turnbulls apologist manner anyone who expected the truth is deluding them self.

Politicians nearly never ask a question they do not know the answer too.
So Hanson asked the wrong question or maybe should have hit him with facts that he could not deny then ask about Islamic terrorism.

QUOTE The chief of ASIO Duncan Lewis is not telling the truth, "I have absolutely no evidence to suggest there's a connection between refugees and terrorism"

Abdul Nacer Benbrika, mastermind of the MCG bombing plot and currently serving a 15 year jail sentence was in Australia as a refugee fleeing his "unsafe" country of origin Algeria.

How is it The Australian uncovered these 22 cases published on 8 October last year - but the details somehow eluded the boss of ASIO?

Up to 22 people trying to join Australia’s extra refugee intake of 12,000 Syrians face rejection because of fears they are linked to terrorist organisations, including Islamic State, which used refugees as “camouflage” to enter Europe and carry out the Paris attacks last year.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2017/05/watch-chief-of-asio-shut-down-pauline-hansons-quite-reasonable-questions-about-refugees-and-terroris.html
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 29 May 2017 4:31:34 PM
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There was no misrepresentation, AJ Philips. You would call black white if it suited you. I cannot understand how anyone could be so badly damaged and deluded. You must have had a really terrible life, graduating from pulling wings off flies to stalking online. I don't know what your twisted aim is in trying to bait me all the time, you twisted nut job, and I don't care. It isn't working.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 29 May 2017 5:01:31 PM
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Dear ttbn,

The problem is in your own mind.

AJ replies to you citing links and facts.

You are the one who persists in name calling
and personal attacks.

You appear to be the one with the problem.

If it "isn't working" as you claim, why do you
keep doing it? Can't you have a well reasoned
adult discussion?

No one is attacking you.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 May 2017 5:09:14 PM
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