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Should refugees and immigrants get more lenient sentences in courts

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"Should refugees and immigrants get more lenient sentences in courts?"

No, they should receive exactly the same punishment as anyone else.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 19 February 2017 10:21:05 AM
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steeleredux,
You had better get used to it because I intend to keep a record of crimes and cases by refugees and immigrants and expose them when the opportunity arises. I may not get them all, but enough to establish a pattern of light sentences imposed by the courts.

Immigration issues are far more important to people than the major parties acknowledge and is why they colluded not to debate immigration, brokered by Hawke PM. High immigration and multiculturalism has done much to change the social fabric of this country, because of the introduction of alien cultural practices.

Underage marriages, polygamy and FGM comes high on that list and I hope that Pauline Hanson gets enough support to force the major parties to face and debate the issues. Interesting times ahead.

Deportation is no threat as it requires a 2 year jail sentence to be considered. How many times have you seen a non citizen get a 2 year, or more, sentence for even a quite serious crime. Rape and FGM are supposed to be serious crimes.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 19 February 2017 2:31:11 PM
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If your predisposition is to dislike and mistrust a certain group in society, any negativity directed towards that group is easily absorbed as damning evidence of the entire groups culpability, and will further reinforce the negative stereotyping of those so hated. Negative content of news reports about an individual within the despised group will reinforce prejudicial opinions already held about the entire group, If you are so inclined it is easy to extrapolate from an individual case, to cover all those within that group.

Take Banjo's opening to this thread.

"I am now convinced the refugees and immigrants get most lenient sentences by our courts"

Given your track record on the forum, when were you ever not convinced?

That is followed up with; "I fact have now started to keep a record of reported crimes by new comers."

No need Banjo as you are "convinced", what is the follow up evidence for? To un-convince yourself. Hardly likely.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 February 2017 2:45:30 PM
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Foxy

The answer is simple, Aboriginals are incarcerated at far higher rates than non aboriginals because they offend at far higher rates.

The reasons for this can be debated, but in general aboriginal areas are not safe.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 19 February 2017 3:16:20 PM
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//I intend to keep a record of crimes and cases by refugees and immigrants and expose them when the opportunity arises. I may not get them all, but enough to establish a pattern of light sentences imposed by the courts.//

Unless you're also keeping a record of crimes and cases by not-refugees & immigrants and exposing them when opportune, you won't be establishing anything. Without that record we won't have any basis for comparison, and with no data to establish if not-refugees & immigrants are receiving heavier sentences than refugees & immigrants any conclusions drawn will be meaningless.

The most you will be able to establish is that judges sometimes deliver sentences which do not fit the crime - but you won't be able to establish whether they are more or less likely to give those sentences to refugees & immigrants.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 19 February 2017 3:54:08 PM
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Dear Toni,

I can assure you this is not an exercise in seeking truth by Banjo and his motives are hardly ulterior. They are driven solely by his 'bash the immigrant/refugee' shtick.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 19 February 2017 4:37:49 PM
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