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Should refugees and immigrants get more lenient sentences in courts

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Steeleredux,
So all you can find is one small error on my part, by referring to an student from overseas as a refugee. Big deal, and you call that half truths, lies and distortion. what a farse you are. Then you try and change the subject. If you wish to discuss sexual abuse of school children by religions post it yourself, I may even post my view.

The fact is I post on subject that concern me and in that process bare some truths that does not suit your lefty ideology and you don't like it.

Try arguing that refugees and migrants should get lighter sentences than citizens for crimes committed.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 18 February 2017 9:11:47 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Small detail? Really? The very first thing I checked and you were wrong. If it were an isolated incident perhaps I would view this differently, but it isn't is it. You do this constantly, beating the drums with scant evidence, deceit, and a hatefilled ideology that brooks no nuance at all.

The reason I raised the buggering Christians was to illustrate how hypocritical you are. Many of these perpetrators were imported priests. Do you favour a ban on foreign priests into this country?

Look mate while you have this deep determination to flog this issue to death I'm pretty determined to see your type of divisiveness challenged. It is harmful to this country and the chances of its wide mix of peoples living in relative harmony.

Refugees and immigrants do not get lighter sentences than ordinary Australians in fact far from it. Added to that the risk of deportation hangs over the heads of many, something we do not have to fear.

So let me ask you again, if Mr Gong receives greater punishment than Mr Byrne will you reverse your opinion?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 18 February 2017 11:49:29 PM
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Foxy,

The levels of crime and violence are far higher in aboriginal communities by at least an order of magnitude. I was listening to a program on the ABC where an aboriginal elder (woman) was discussing that in her community DV was 30 to 40x that of non aboriginal populations and that the judges tried not to incarcerate the offenders and were often just sending them back with a slap on the wrist.

I understand that other crimes and violence are also nearly as prevalent and that most judges while trying not to over incarcerate aboriginals eventually have to imprison repeat offenders.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 19 February 2017 6:30:50 AM
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"One does not have to be a lawyer to recognize light sentences for serious crimes."

Ones knowledge of the crime is often based on a 30 second grab on the 6 o'clock news. The popular media does a good job of whipping up public outrage, it sell "newspapers". A simple one line post on a forum like this is totally insufficient to draw any conclusions about any legal case.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 February 2017 8:12:23 AM
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Precisely, Paul, precisely.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 19 February 2017 8:35:33 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Back to my original question - why are Aboriginal prison
rates so high if as you claim they get more lenient
sentences? You need to look at the big picture instead
of simply claiming that they get lighter sentences.

The following link may help:

http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/law/aboriginal-prison-rates

According to the link things like inadequate legal
representation, lack of community services, lack of
accommodation, inflexible sentencing acts, health problems,
family breakdowns, lack of language skills, people's
attitudes, social and economic situations, offence
criminalisation (swearing & behaviour), police behaviour,
unemployment, are just some of the things listed.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 February 2017 9:54:56 AM
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