I'm very very sorry FOXY for my ridiculous remarks, utterly uncalled for. It's just I wasn't travelling very well yesterday, and all it needed, is some ineffectual button to be pushed, and 'stupid here' should've pulled his blood head in, otherwise if I 'said what I felt' I'd be banned from The Forum for life !

You'd think by now and at my age, all the venom, the violence, and hostility, would've left me by know, but no, it still remains lurking in some dark place bubbling away quietly. I felt better when I regularly attended the old VVCS weekly and then fortnightly, now the facility is no longer VV specific? There's always the Repat. I suppose. Again, I'm sincerely sorry FOXY for my intemperate response, it most certainly wasn't at all warranted.

o sung wu,

VVCS Factsheet
http://www.dva.gov.au/factsheet-vcs01-veterans-and-veterans-families-counselling-service-vvcs

What is the problem?

While not discounting the service and losses of those who are entitled, it has been since its inception, the single worthwhile counselling service available to MEN and a damned fine model it is, but exclusive to those with the qualifying service.

Other men have nothing, zilch and any moves no matter how small to remedy that glaring deficiency (eg., in the light of the male suicide rate in Australia), is always met with derision, resistance and political stalling.

Go there and be grateful.

Dear O Sung Wu,

You do not owe me an apology.
You did nothing wrong and I was not offended.
I was just explaining what my husband was told
at that time - and certainly now,times have
changed with different kinds of offenders
doing bad things. You look after your health
and please know that your opinion on this forum
is respected and valued. You are one of the most
fairest and gentlest of posters. You contribute
a great deal. I always look forward to reading
what you have to say.

Take care

O sung wu

You say: “You'd think by now and at my age, all the venom, the violence, and hostility, would've left me by know, but no, it still remains lurking in some dark place bubbling away quietly.”

No. I, at least, do not think that. We are the same people we always were, only wrinklier. I get very 'venomous' and 'hostile' still, but I don't have the energy any more, so it doesn't last long. There are no bad consequences as there used to be - young people don't take much notice of silly old buggers. Don't fight it. Don't bottle stuff up.

I was saying just a few hours ago to my wife that when we were growing up, things were improving gradually. Now that we are in our declining years, society seem to be deteriorating rapidly. The young ones don't know any better, and they will surive. We will not. But we can still kick and buck if we want to.

I remember lashing out you not so long ago. You survived. I felt contrite, learned my lesson, and life went on.

o sung wu
said " Were you aware many patched members of these intellectual giants are of Lebanese origin, therefore most have had a fairly close associating with Islam - moreover many of the Prezz's are Lebanese, some are and were, the Club's prestigious Master of Arms. So to infer the bikies are a unit unto themselves, is erroneous. Most of the 1% have large Lebanese memberships and that my friend is true."
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So my post listed the ethnic groups in bikie gangs . Some are Lebanese but they are 1 section of nationalities. So Islam is not the issue is it?

Hi there LEOJ...

Point taken. Aussie Vets are probably the best looked after Veterans anywhere in the western world, and I for one, are eternally grateful for it. Moreover it's been claimed by some (only 'some') Aussie Vietnam Veterans are among the greatest whingers in the Veterans community, usually about there entitlements, TPI rates and the many other benefits we enjoy. Fortunately I don't belong to that number if they exist at all.

I've done the Repatriation Hospital, live-in PTSD course/or treatment programme. The biggest blue that most blokes were articulating, was the (lack of) welcome home or homecoming we had all experienced. I don't want to rehash all that crap now. Besides, it's right off topic. Lastly, I couldn't agree with you more; ordinary men 'NEED' to have their own dedicated 'drop-in' facility or Centre similar to that of the old VVCS - and very very soon I'd suggest!

I'm sorry TTBN for again high-jacking your excellent Topic under discussion. !

You're correct. In the 1%'s most leadership and positions of power, by and large are of Lebanese extraction, but Islam per se, doesn't play a major role within the organizational structure of the 1%'s. Nevertheless one can easily equate Islam and Lebanese together, without doubt. I can't say whether Bikie Gangs are inherently raciest, their clubs are very much closed shops as it were. A former colleague of mine was made case-officer of a newly formed Task Force, in order to interdict activities of the burgeoning outlaw M/C gangs originating in SW Sydney and it's environs.

When last we spoke shortly prior to my retirement, he indicated to me that he'd had substantial doubt as to whether or not he had the necessary resources, O/T Vote, and experienced manpower, just to make a small impression upon their suburban presence. I wouldn't wish to have carriage of his brief for anything at all ! That's for bloody sure?