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A Heart Warming Story from the US of A.

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Steele,

Leave the comedy to Paul and NNN.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 13 February 2017 10:04:23 PM
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NNN: The M60 machine gun is the bare minimum for vehicles , on foot it's the M16 rifle. Pistols are for cooks and starched shirts.

You really shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.

The 60 (Yank & they are not used any more) or now the GPMG (Brit) the 60 was never accurate & is not intended to be accurate. It is an area weapon with a "Cone of Fire" for support or suppressive fire. Do I have to explain what that is? As is the GPMG, but less so. Unlike the Bren, which has a very minimal "Cone of Fire" & is very accurate. MG's on vehicles look very good in Movies, or as support fire, but venerable.

Cook's & Senior Ranks I agree with, only because I wouldn't want to get caught in "Blue on Blue."

The 16 & the 4 are good weapons, but the Styer 2, with the upgrade, is much better & Less inclined to jam at a bad time.

Is mise: “Using a Glock at 25m, 50m.

Two out of three rounds on a figure 11 at 25 m will hit sideways. 15m is maximum accuracy at 50m, anyone within a 5m radius is in danger. Luckily though a T Shirt would stop a 9mm at 50m.

I witnesses a VC get hit with at least half a mag from an Owen Gun & he ran away. We followed the blood trail but never found him. If you want to know what 9mm rounds hitting flesh is like at 15m get a hand full of marbles & drop them, one at a time, into a bucket of water. That's what flesh looks like when it's hit.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 11:28:05 AM
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Steelie: Oh I am fully aware of the lobbying against, and the dilution of, our gun laws here in this country.

Welcome back. How come they let you back into the Country? By the way, I still waiting on answers to those questions I asked you yonks ago. Do you want them again?

I, too are against dilution of our Gun Laws. Reason. If everyone could have a weapon the Islamists would be stocking up like crazy. They are anyway but if they're caught we can do something about it. There is a mosque in Brisbane with two Containers buried under it. Apparently they stocked up when the Laws went into effect. Just going on what the builder told me.

By the way, I was a weapons instructor in a previous life. Anything from a Ging to a 106mm Recoilless Rifle plus 2", 3" & 81mm mortars. I've still got a Scab from a "Matilda Tank" from using Squash Head. That was a fun day. I just love L.A.W.'s, fired 40 M72's & 60 Gustave's in one day getting rid of old stock, another fun day on the range. I was in Townsville 2012 & shot a 266/300 on the Sniper Range. I hadn't fired a weapon since 87. The Range Supervisor was impressed. He said most of the Trained Soldiers now-a-days can't do that. Didn't pay for a drink that night in the Combined Mess. I was in Townsville in 2016 for "Cross of Gallantry Award" Parade & tried to talk them into giving me a L1A2 with a scope, just in case the mossies start a full scale war in Australia, you understand. They declined, but would keep me in mind. ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 11:28:45 AM
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Absolutely the M60 suppressive fire mops up a feral black personnel gang as well as the mountain cannon grape-shot does. I prefer the grape-shot for faster acquisition of target and reducing return fire.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 11:40:00 AM
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“Using a Glock at 25m, 50m
Two out of three rounds on a figure 11 at 25 m will hit sideways. 15m is maximum accuracy at 50m, anyone within a 5m radius is in danger. Luckily though a T Shirt would stop a 9mm at 50m"

Are you vying for the comedy award too?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 12:15:40 PM
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The police do need rifles.

It is to be expected though that they are not referring to the modern arms they will be issued with as 'assault', 'automatic', 'sniper' and the other negative emotive, sensationalist words they use where civilian rifles, even Daisy air rifles, are concerned. Looks matter a great deal where duly registered and lawfully owned civilian arms are concerned. Police Politics, played by the upper echelon, who are worried about their careers. Who was that big, blue woman in Victoria some years ago?

I am wondering though what 'gun controls' the lunar Greens and their 'gun control' mates sponsored by currency billionaire George Soros will be demanding for the police semi-automatic rifles? The very least would be an armoured vehicle with numerous padlocks.
-To prevent the dangerous, wilful gun from escaping of its own volition and inflicting mass homicide. Guns do that you know, just ask the hysterical hoplophobes on OLO.

Time to forget the instrument, the tool of harm, which could be anything, a fist, fire. bomb or vehicle and to understand and deal with the human who decides to commit crimes.

Although the Greens and other hanky-wringers are so very soft where offenders are concerned. They are also so dismissive of the rights of victims of crime and the vulnerable public.
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 12:56:21 PM
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