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Posted by ttbn, Friday, 3 February 2017 8:38:08 AM
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Hey ttbn,
"Another Leftist, Old Mother Clinton was to be president, and the deal would be sweet. Then Trump occurred. " I think you might have the dates mixed up on this one, Clinton was already out of the picture. The US election was November 9 and the refugee deal might've been done Novemebr 13, if the following news article is a correct indication. So Turnbull really kind of did do the dirty on Trump knowing full well what his position would likely be, in order to get a result with the refugee issue. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/united-states-confirms-manus-island-and-nauru-deal-with-turnbull-government-20161112-gso2el.html I think Trump will likely honour the deal begrudgingly and capitalise on it best he can, because he can in some ways blame Obama for it. And who knows what they've now negotiated, what the real deal is and what it will cost us. Trump's Secretary of State Tillerson has said some concerning things but don't get too worried just yet. He may have been playing to Democrats to get through his confirmation. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 3 February 2017 12:10:38 PM
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Stupid thing is Turnbull back the wrong deal, when Trump said he would stop Muslim immigration the Canadian Prime Minister said Canada would step up and take the Syrians etc.
Australia should have made a deal with Canada. Posted by Philip S, Friday, 3 February 2017 2:28:45 PM
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Good thought, Philip. Trudeau even says he would 'love' them. Turnbull could the the Manus Island illegals to Canada, and they have no illegals from Puerto Rica to give us. Much better for Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 3 February 2017 4:14:44 PM
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Here's a link from Michelle Grattan telling us why
Malcolm Turnbull should walk away from the refugee deal: http://theconversation.com/grattan-on-friday-malcolm-turnbull-should-walk-away-from-the-refugee-deal-72377 It's something that Mr Turnbull will probably not do. But it is worth thinking about and debating. Weighing all the pros and cons. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 3 February 2017 4:52:45 PM
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Turnbull should walk away as you say Foxy, but he won't he will try to prove he is strong but it will backfire, Trump is 100% business man and he will want something back of greater value. What that will be we don't know bet Turnbull will not tell us.
Hopefully it won't be the trash they have their in the form of MS13 and other gangs or lowlifes who went as refugees and destroyed places or were obviously economic invaders Posted by Philip S, Friday, 3 February 2017 6:12:01 PM
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It is reported that Trump has rubbed Turnbull's smug mug in the manure over the 'dumb' plan hatched up by two Leftists, Turnbull and Obama, to swap illegal entrants who never should have been the concern of either country. Another Leftist, Old Mother Clinton was to be president, and the deal would be sweet. Then Trump occurred.
Turbull received and well-deserved international humilation, and Trump has cemented his undertaking to do the right thing for Americans. Sadly, it highlights the no-where land, that is now Australia, as a very weird place indeed, given the idiots we keep sending to Canberra. Turnbull and his toadies must go, as must the opposition twit, Shorten and his bunch of commos. Australia has to start saving some serious money to defend ourselves with. We have been shown that the past, ongoing protection of the U.S can no longer be taken for granted. The 'shock/horror' of 2% of GDP for defence is nowhere near enough to begin defending ourselves. We need big money. We need to start by knocking in the head NDIS, Gonski, NBN, importing immigrants to hide the slow rate of growth and prop up the mendicant housing industry; finish with foreign aid to dictators, slash government and the public service; stop welfare payments to those who won't work, make people pay for their own kids, and cut welfare to idle Muslims who are using it to sap our society and soften it up for Allah. That's just for starters.