I think butch is making excuses for his own underhanded tactics. One gigantic problem can be fixed with a cashless economy. What happens then you pay people with cups of coffee, or chunks of bootleather stake.

Dear Doog,

«What happens then you pay people with cups of coffee, or chunks of bootleather stake.»

Fortunately the Australian dollar is not the only currency in the world - to suit people like me who refuse to carry electronic devices on their body.
Cheques too - personal and bank cheques, both Australian and otherwise, can also be circulated in the same way as cash, then ultimately there is silver and gold: you will not be able to thrust your disgusting electronics at me.

Criminals that should go to jail.
Surprised to see you advocating for crooks flesher.
Bad form that is.

A deceased friend who had his own pest control company never employed anyone, all of the people who did work for him were sub-contractors, all licenced pest controllers.
He worked this way because to have an actual employee was costly, particularly in terms of time spent doing paperwork for the Government.

Dear Mikk,

«Criminals that should go to jail.»

Well and good - the most common criminals are those who impose their laws on us under threat of violence, followed by secondary criminals who benefit from the proceeds of their crimes.

Not obeying them is a virtue and if instead of paying one's taxes to government (which would partially use it for locking away innocent people like us), one gives that money directly to charities that help the really-poor who are in need, then they make our world better.

BUTCH, if nothing else you are persistent, every couple of weeks on the forum you raise this topic about small business and cash in hand payments.

Lets recall some of the last discussion;

I pointed out that according to 'PayScale' the average small business operators income was $63,000 p/a in Australia. You said you would not get out of bed for that sort of money. According to you, you should make a wage of $63,000 plus an amount equal to what you pay each of your employees.

When it was pointed out that many of these cash in hand employers, not only were they breaking the law, in many cases they were also under paying workers, and ripping off their entitlements, supa, penalty rates etc etc, something you advocated as necessary.

When I suggested since you were giving employers the right to break the law, and steal from their employees, I asked were you okay with employees stealing from their employer. You went mute on that subject.

You were ably assisted in you argument by sidekick IS MISE, who believes Australia's industrial relations, pay and conditions should be based on the INDIAN MODEL, where the official minimum wage has recently been raised to $3.11 Australian per day. No doubt India has its share of cash in hand payers as well, it has 100 million beggars, for Australia that would be about 3 million if we adopt the IA MISE INDIAN MODEL.