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Vic State Gov Concern Over Teen Crime.

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The Lateline website provided two options: listen to spoken words or read the transcript. To learn something important, reading transcript words would allow readers time to understand and memorise. Asking experts to express their opinions within set time periods, allows spoken words to be poorly expressed.

Teacher example standing in front of 30 students, expressing how to solve mathematical problems. Asking students to solve numbers chalked on a blackboard mathematical problems. If students miss selective information merely because students needed to stop listening for a moment to remember what was already stated by a teacher. Teaching students by teachers addressing students verbally is a poor teaching method. More like deliberate sabotage, natural selection, survival of the fittest, losers get to drive trucks for a living.

If students were capable readers, every child reading how best to solve mathematical problems from books, all children would have a fair equal chance to pass examinations. Therefore people in the know whom could gain an unfair advantage by sending their children to better educating school whom schools supply books students can read how best to solve mathematical problems.

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Education spokes persons concern about mathematics and science world rankings. Political leaders are pretending to want a citizenry of rocket scientists to improve global competition, future employment, I say establishment wants a citizenry of sports loving Neanderthals: boredom; mental stress; mental depression... persuades child emotions to maintain concerns about how children feel about complex long sentenced information.

Classroom education is punishing child curiosity, torturous education kills long term human incentive to care about thinking. Teenagers in “Science of Stupid” and “World's Craziest Fools” demonstrates how the simplest complex thought has been successfully repressed.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 8 December 2016 2:13:35 PM
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Australia maybe competing against Korea and Japan whom has limited land to further increase population, with present high population, government tactic to hold teenagers in educational institutions to delay families first child, reducing overall country's family sizes. Korean and Japanese high teenage suicide rate related to school education further avoids the need for future wars. While Asian parents are forcing their children to study, parents programmed to believe education is good for children, parents are using their children as traditional old age support systems. I assume, world countries, like in Australia, teenage suicide is not linked by “cause and effect” to school education.

Generations of Neanderthal parents can't seem to think independently from a lifetime of propaganda to realise school education has little to do with increasing children's intelligence, nor of actually making children dumber than if children had not attended school, and merely learnt how to read and perform basic mathematics at home beginning at aged 9 years, an age where reading relevant information maybe appreciated.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 8 December 2016 2:16:25 PM
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On December 7, “The Drum”, about 15 minutes into the program, lasting about 6 minutes. Host begins by saying, “...in education, now a new report has delivered more bad news about performance of Australian students with further conformation they're slipping further behind the rest of the world”. The next person, Sue Tomson said, “these students are going to be competing with students from Singapore and the rest of the world for global jobs, in that sense they're not going to be very competitive”. The host did a short statistical evaluation using “Program For International Students Assesment” (assessment) supplied information of almost half a million students over 72 countries. Two political opinions before the panellists state their opinions.

Guest panellist Sue Boyce said “the other thing to look at, the figures themselves are an Australian average, if you look at the countries that came up top, there fairly homogeneous countries, places like Singapore, one review I read today, said look if we took the Northern Territory and Tasmania off, we'd shoot up that list, that is not a good point to make”...

The host said “the students at the top are doing very well, it's the students at the bottom are struggling”.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-07/the-drum-wednesday-december-7/8101334

Sue Boyce statement, “that is not a good point to make” (slip-up), is the correct point to make. The top of the list county was Singapore. Singapore has a small land base, which I suggest has very few sports fields. Australian schools guide young children onto sports fields. The average Australian compared to Singaporean and fairly homogeneous countries school students would not so frequently be shown where sports fields were.

I suggest governments are promoting a failure of jobs and growth crisis, scaring parent listeners into excepting parents' school children are being traumatised, suffering from mental stress and mental depression for some worthy long term allusion of high paying employment in a globalised economy. Worse still, that trusted establishment media are carrying on with the education crisis allusion.
Posted by steve101, Saturday, 10 December 2016 2:01:58 PM
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A correct international study as a sample idea would be to take 1000 of the each country's best students, put students through the PFISA assessment, selection 100 of the best scores of each country for comparison.
Because the lowest scoring students are most probably not going to compete for international jobs, the existing assessment system is pointless.

Referring to my earlier posts about governments creating crisis, militarising economies to solve crisis, fake statistics are created to justify getting in front of citizenry faces, exposing governments short-comings transparencies as democracies are supposed to do. In The Drum political opinions, importing foreign teachers to teach students was mentioned, “more immigrants”, any excuse to bring more migrants into Australia.

Sue Boyce said she read a review, not a news print media opinion. I don't read newspapers, so I don't know whether any selective media pointed out this important point about Australian sports culture messing with world education assessment rankings. My suggestion is that the establishment controlled media want the crisis fear story to not mention sports as a dummying down influence on Australian education.

Other rolled over crisis: global warming, climate change; negative GDP figures; carbon tax, carbon credit trading; China China Sea island navel base; cyber crime, Internet hackers; Donald Trump as US president; reduced taxes, means welfare beneficiary people have be suffer.
Posted by steve101, Saturday, 10 December 2016 2:04:28 PM
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On December 8, SBS2 now calling itself “Viceland”, The Feed presented a special on teenagers “Skipping School”.
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/817238595632

Youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hv_mlezJA4

My opinion is teenagers are displaying a dramatised/scripted shallow level of dissatisfaction with classroom education. Teenagers being heard seem capable of expressing their opinion yet short of detailed examples of what's wrong with school. Taylah aged 14 blames ending the dramas; James aged 15 blames own family history of mental problems for skipping school examples rather any school curriculum issues.

The elderly female Marie Shaw QC retired judge expresses that children skipping school can't get jobs without an education. That you can't get an education attending school one day a week, I suggest that school education doesn't really educate any information worth remembering. Four more days per week in which school merely traumatises child-like intelligence even further.

My opinion is teenagers curiosity is sufficiently damaged by school education, that teenagers have already been turned into emotionally concerned decision making Neanderthals, that after permanently leaving school, teenagers can't easily get themselves to read non-fiction books and/or attempt doing skilled hobbies, instead would rather spend their time doing nothing, something really simple and/or playing games, riding bikes and skateboards. I suggest the skipping school production is biased against children skipping school in that no such alternative from academic school learning suggestions were provided.

By sending not ready to attend school aged 5 years children, to school, traumatising children by the age of 7 years. Children constantly repressing classroom boredom and mental stress. By the time children become teenagers, teenagers capable or skipping school, whom have spent many years repressing classroom tasking information, by staying at school are only going to continue repressing classroom education.

Teenagers having left schools will, depending on how they self-medicate classroom traumas, traumas may fade away. Alternatively traumas may lead teenagers with extra time to spare, to commit crimes in order to finance illegal drug addictions.

I suggest Skipping School program is intentionally boring to watch: very few sentences of relevant information; slow to provide information; irritating music placed in between scenes, making watching more irritating.
Posted by steve101, Saturday, 10 December 2016 2:10:51 PM
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I bring to your attention how many: television commercials; program presentations, exampling many parts of the Skipping Schools special... music is heard in the background. I hate commercials... I hate listening to people while having to ignore background music.

I suggest background music is an intentional tactic to condition listeners into not wanting to listen to what maybe being said. I don't like the time wasting music introduction to The Drum. Before VHS VCRs machines, I literally hated watching television, and only did so after an exhausting day at work.

I have mentioned this point about television to several people, they reply by suggesting I must watch a lot of commercial free ABC. Which I reply “no, I don't” the problem with the ABC television is that old period stories bore me senseless. I would not watch any television if it where not for several PVRs recording everything I intend to watch. My point is that television media has I believe a specific purpose to dumb down citizenry. That many people don't watch television because programs leave them uninspired.

Media have so much noise yet so much not worth listening to, human brains merely don't listen otherwise brains would remember so much irrelevant junk, brains would become so confused, subconscious memories unable to think correctly. Same pointless stories which seem new have similar themes as many previously heard stories leading to simple reinforcing judgments, many judgements on how society works to citizenry's advantage. Crime stories are how criminals are arrested, trialled and sent to jail.

Stories are using spoken sentences spoken too slow with too longer periods between scenes, while other media are too fast, with too shorter sentences, quickly changing scenes, building up to an idea point of the story, suddenly commercials using quick scenes with annoying music while a person promotes products I can assume few people want to buy (M&Ms) and/or childish stories.

Within spoken sentences, there is nothing worth a second thought. No information needs to be remembered which aids understanding following scenes. Movies like Ben-her are awful to watch 30 years ago.
Posted by steve101, Saturday, 10 December 2016 2:17:50 PM
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