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Australia is apparently faced with 2 unpalatable options. The first is to maintain the expensive and politically difficult detention in Nauru, and the second is to bring them back to Aus and in effect confirm the assertions made by people traffickers that once you land in Aus you will eventually get PR, starting up the illegal trade and drowning women and children, which is why the Pacific solution was implemented in the first place.

The option of letting them go to NZ has the obvious disadvantage that they can simply come to Aus when they get NZ citizenship. However, there should be the option of declaring them persona non grata effectively blocking their entry to Aus.

They don't get to Oz but to NZ, or, to Malaysia if we can swing a solution there. If we can, any future IMA's would go to there, where a more diverse culture exists than on Nauru.

Things haven't worked on Nauru because the Nauruans are incapable of assimilating the refugees, despite Oz giving the gov't 35 mill p.a.

Rather than seeing Australia's need as an opportunity for their own development, Nauruans are voting by their violent actions at the personal level and authorities do not intervene. Whether this is religious or racist at its base, I don't know, but the upshot is that approved refugees are barely better off than under the regimes they left behind.

I do not believe it is our aim to drive refugees back to where they came from by neglecting their plight on Nauru, but that is the way it appears.

Some may call me a traitor, a malcontent, a blithering idiot, a fifth generation disgrace to Australia, but I'll not abide by the morphing of the Nauru solution into what it has become.

This conversation is about as useful as the one on SSM, and how many cartridges in a shotgun. Even Lefty Turnbull says the illegals are Nauru's problem, not Australia's. Surely the rattiest ratbag should have grasped the fact that these people are not coming here. The system these people would like to bludge off is now in enough trouble that it is struggling to sustain the people who helped to build it. We don't want illegals. All over the world, people are fed up to the eye teeth with "refugees" and leeches. If the illegals rot in Nauru whinging, return to their homelands or disappear up their own backsides, that has nothing to do with Australia. We have been too weak for too long. We have allowed ourselves to be hostage to the lunatic, "progressive" fringe for too long.

ttbn: If the illegals rot in Nauru whinging, return to their homelands or disappear up their own backsides, that has nothing to do with Australia.

I keep telling you the solution is to hand the Camps over to the UNCHR, then walk out & leave them there. It's not a problem of our creation. They created the problem by queue jumping. If Australia walks out the UNCHR will have to step in. They won't because once they leave the UNCHR Camps in the ME they are no longer the UNCHR's responsibility. The UNCHR deems them to be Economic Refugees for which the UNCHR states it is not responsible.

Recognising propaganda: government financed ABC broadcaster needs to look separate from government to allow transparency democracy governments to look real. The poor journalism ethics allows many other media to criticise ABC 4 Corners.

Journalists are keen to looks separate from each other as though there weren't some centralised establishment spin doctor pulling the strings.

Why must posters jump to the obvious conclusions?

Democracy does not work. Democracy governments have too many opportunities to thieve money off tax payers. So citizens can't assume the worse... citizens are bombarded with transparency BS scandals.

Bad education mentally stressful pretend thought, allows citizens to jump to the first simple thought that enters their mind.

Allowing governments to control school curriculum and teacher training is a mistake!

I also suggest posters are keen to criticise, formulating wow language skills. Words don't prove anything. Where's the logic?